How is Drop a Gem not the G.O.A.T. diss track?
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I couldn't believe it when you brought up BP2. I lost, but I learned a good lesson...so really I won
Yeah - Super Ugly started off shaky and came across as kind of creepy.
The people rejected it right off top.
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Subliminal diss track are always better then direct ones to me
Yeah. That's the thing...Pac made a few references to the Mobb...but nothing that impressive, on Hit Em Up. He wasn't even rapping, it was all in the rant at the end. Then the Mobb crushed him with Drop a Gem on Em. Then Pac dies and the beef is over at that point. Some posthumous disses leaked...but the Mobb couldn't respond at that point.Naming names makes the whole country/world scream with you: Fcuk mob deep, fcub biggie and fcuk badboy...
The fact that Biggie was the main target was nothing but luck for the mobb. They got only a stray bullet. If Pac made a whole track about em...mannn
So it's a difficult battle to judge, since Pac never really had a diss record at them.
I would have loved to have heard a real Pac response and then P go back at him on another record...but we all know what happened in Vegas.
Leaked after Pac died. Nothing the Mobb could do. Doesn't count.
What does any of this have to do with the music breh?
But if you want to look at it that way...Pac got bodied by someone with a serious medical condition
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Basically. Good disses have to either be factual or funny.
Mobb deep are studio gangsters. Empty tough guy talk is lame. Anyone can pop shyt in the studio. It's more potent when you know the person is about that action.
However, this
>>>>>
The Truth is so fukking vulgar, like to the point there's absolutely nowhere that beef could go afterwards on wax...there's no valid lyrical response to that shyt, jeezy would have to go see that man
I never saw it that way - the record was already out there.But Mobb Deep putting it on the album, after the fact was cold as fukk
It was as if they were saying 'fukk you' to his death.
What does any of this have to do with the music?
Again - do you need to be intimidated by a big strong man to "enjoy" hip hop?
All Hit Em Up is is empty threats for the most part..
Empty threats (when well executed) >>> hard hitting personal shyt
Just look at Super Ugly.
Generally I would agree with you though.
Chino XL's shyt was vicious too...
Thats 98% of the booth fam
Basically. Good disses have to either be factual or funny.
Mobb deep are studio gangsters. Empty tough guy talk is lame. Anyone can pop shyt in the studio. It's more potent when you know the person is about that action.
However, this
>>>>>
If you completely remove the artistry from it then yes. It's better to kill your opponents friend and rap about it - then to spit some creative
I've had this convo before....I remember someone saying that maybe they had plans of putting it on the album prior to his death and it just turned out that way. But what if Mobb Deep had control and knew what they were doing actually green lighting it to be on the album afterwards? What if it was never meant to be on the album and instead was just meant for the dj's but after his death they said 'fukk him lets put this on the record' just to be spiteful and evil.