First off I never said drop a gem on em was a great diss. I think it's a good diss but not great. Thee point was that a few posters tried to downplay it because that didn't say Pac name, and I just pointed out there are a lot of classic diss tracks that didn't say names. If you don't fukk with drop a gem on em that's on you, but that don't change anything I said.
How is Drop a Gem not the G.O.A.T. diss track?
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Nothing I said is nonsense. We can't just go around blindly giving away GOATS to everyone and everything that came out in a certain time frame to try to meet some Quota or Perception
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But our point is that those records you're talking about (including the Mobb record) can't be a CLASSIC if it's on some sucker shyt.
We didn't do it then and we're not going to do it now. The records on the list are Classic, no doubt. But classic DISS records tho, nah, not happenin
@DoobieJRoach let's just cut to the chase breh. You're overcompensating because you didn't understand the record when you heard it. It's not a big deal that you didn't get it at the time (or 98) but i think its really influenced how you perceive the record. I don't think you can be objective about it. On the other hand, with my username and avi, clearly I'm unbiased 
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@DoobieJRoach let's just cut to the chase breh. You're overcompensating because you didn't understand the record when you heard it. It's not a big deal that you didn't get it at the time (or 98) but i think its really influenced how you perceive the record. I don't think you can be objective about it. On the other hand, with my username and avi, clearly I'm unbiased
But what does that have to do with anything tho? You asked was it a GOAT diss record and it backfired.
I don't need to have no kinda context or to be there in that exact moment in time or none of that. The shyt is either Poppin or it's not. I mean it's a cool lil piece of Album Filler that has a backstory of it being a diss record aimed at 2Pac and that's it.
okay, cool, I get it. But since we're talking about the actual song and not the IDEA behind the song then let's be real. It ain't shyt
So 2nd rd KO is not a classic diss because he didn't say LL name
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shyt is weak. Prodigy is weak. Literally. fukk them lames. Tell that nikka to tell it to the aliens that visits him.
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So 2nd rd KO is not a classic diss because he didn't say LL name
And let's not pretend that "2nd Round K.O." is "Hit Em Up" or "The Truth" or "No Vaseline" just to make a point about something else entirely different
It's not a straw man. BTW You just said The Truth and Gucci never said Jeezy name in that diss
And let's not pretend that "2nd Round K.O." is "Hit Em Up" or "The Truth" or "No Vaseline" just to make a point about something else entirely different
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I hear you breh, thats a really good point that Canibus never mentioned LL's name, but Canibus went for LL's neck viciously and it was BLATANTLY about LL.
Anyone from that time would tell you that easily because of the drama around "4,3,2,1".
Doesn't take away from "Drop A Gem..." not being the G.O.A.T. "Hit 'Em Up" takes that title for the viciousness and ruthless directness of using the SAME sample as an enemy and SAYING names. Wasn't a bad stand alone song too
But breh, you are right about "2nd Round Knockout".
What other KNOWN diss songs don't mention names though?
I'm from the school of "Dollaz & Sense", "What Would U Do?", etc where you gun for people by mentioning they're names and I promise, 20 years later people still sing along to the MC Eiht and BG Knocc Out disses.
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I hear you breh, thats a really good point that Canibus never mentioned LL's name, but Canibus went for LL's neck viciously and it was BLATANTLY about LL.
Anyone from that time would tell you that easily because of the drama around "4,3,2,1".
Doesn't take away from "Drop A Gem..." not being the G.O.A.T. "Hit 'Em Up" takes that title for the viciousness and ruthless directness of using the SAME sample as an enemy and SAYING names. Wasn't a bad stand alone song too
But breh, you are right about "2nd Round Knockout".
What other KNOWN diss songs don't mention names though?
I'm from the school of "Dollaz & Sense", "What Would U Do?", etc where you gun for people by mentioning they're names and I promise, 20 years later people still sing along to the MC Eiht and BG Knocc Out disses.
canibus did not have to do that when it was obvious who had beef with and who the record was about it's a mute point.