How is Ready To Die better than Reasonable Doubt? Why is Big supposedly better overall?

RTD or RD


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Pifferry

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naw, bruh. biggie better. don't be so gassed up by "big words". sometimes if there's a simpler way of gettin' your across point, then there's no need in makin' shyt more anymore complex than it needs too, then that would be stupid. biggie was direct with his rhymes but he was still witty with his shyt. puff helped smooth out those rough edges in biggie's style and it perfected biggie as an mc too

big was better than jigga has ever been
You act as though Jay Z obfuscates his messaging like Lupe Fiasco.
He has a wider vocabulary which means he's able to make more complex rhymes, more complex wordplay/entendres/metaphors, and get more messaging across.
Nothing about being overly impressed by big words.
 
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You act as though Jay Z obfuscates his messaging like Lupe Fiasco.
He has a wider vocabulary which means he's able to make more complex rhymes, more complex wordplay/entendres/metaphors, and get more messaging across.
Nothing about being overly impressed by big words.

naw, i ain't sayin' that but you actin' like he some word wizard

jay was cool but he was never that nikka like biggie was

i know biggie is no longer with us but that doesn't change the legacy and great work he left behind

big is better bruh

i don't know what else to say other than, sorry. it is what it is :yeshrug:
 

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naw, i ain't sayin' that but you actin' like he some word wizard

jay was cool but he was never that nikka like biggie was

i know biggie is no longer with us but that doesn't change the legacy and great work he left behind

big is better bruh

i don't know what else to say other than, sorry. it is what it is :yeshrug:

this is real talk.
 

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naw, i ain't sayin' that but you actin' like he some word wizard

jay was cool but he was never that nikka like biggie was

i know biggie is no longer with us but that doesn't change the legacy and great work he left behind

big is better bruh

i don't know what else to say other than, sorry. it is what it is :yeshrug:
Nope :yeshrug:
 

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big rhymed circles around jay while they were both still active

jay has improved and peaked later on but now has less stellar track record overall

if big was still around who even knows if jay would have blown up

he pretty much just took up the spot big left
 

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You act as though Jay Z obfuscates his messaging like Lupe Fiasco.
He has a wider vocabulary which means he's able to make more complex rhymes, more complex wordplay/entendres/metaphors, and get more messaging across.
Nothing about being overly impressed by big words.

i respect mc's who can string multi-syllable phrases instead of multisyllablic words just because u use big words don't mean shyt in the big picture imo.
 

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I prefer RD by far. Biggie was a 22 year old kid while jay was a wised up 26 year old. Jay was persuasive while big was reckless. North ng wring with that but RD was possibly the first grown man rap album.
 

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I prefer RD by far. Biggie was a 22 year old kid while jay was a wised up 26 year old. Jay was persuasive while big was reckless. North ng wring with that but RD was possibly the first grown man rap album.

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first off.... why would anyone ever compare these two albums AT THE TIME


RTD dropped in 1994

RD dropped in 1996



so by the time jay was dropping his first joint, biggie had already been placed as ny savior and was cranking out hit after hit, remix after remix, junior mafia album, lil kim album, and was getting ready to drop his second album in 97


so if anything RD was going to be compared to LAD which dropped MONTHS later and not 2 years later


and as everyone can see LAD was light years ahead of RD and they were about 8-9 months apart

I was waiting for somebody to post this
because it seems all you heard was Jay was more polished etc. etc. and I'm like don't these nikkaz understand biggie's album was recorded at least two n a half years before

 
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Big was charismatic, had the better presence on the mic & the better flow back then

Jay improved in those areas but BIG came out like Magic...ROY & MVP

Jay got better over time like Kobe
 

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Below is my analysis:

RTD was a GOAT concept hip-hop album, from the intro where Biggie was "birthed" into the hood to the ending with Suicidal Thoughts and dialogue with Puffy with the self inflicted gunshot and thud to the floor. :banderas:The features with Patra, Method Man etc were phenomenal. Biggie showed versatility with style even playing characters in songs like Gimme the Loot, using patois and Jamaican references (Biggup biggup/it's a stick up, stick up/and I'm shooting nikkas if they fukking hiccup) Skits that bled into the ending of Warning (You got a red dot on your head too, ohhh shyt!). More conscious tracks which spoke of the decline/decay of the city (No more coco levio 1-2-3, 1-2-3 all it is to me is a mystery/I hear you motherfukkers talk about it/but I stay seeing bodies with the motherfukking chalk around it - Things Done Changed). Club tracks like Big Poppa and Juicy. Every song from start to finish delivered. Great production. It's also one of those CDs that doesn't get old. The simple cover art of the baby boy with an afro, sitting erect so innocent with confidence/cockiness and potential with "Ready to Die" above his head - like a metaphor of the unfortunate circumstances of black males in the hood OR could be an affirmation that men are ready to die for a change, as the album did change hiphop. Like I said (and others on the board) hip-hop would not be shyt without that Jamaican/Caribbean influence. That rhythm and cadence just adds something extra that multigenerational AAs don't have (I am a multigen AfrAm btw :ufdup:). May explain why Jamaica, a tiny island, has a major impact on music, food and style. In addition to RTD being a hood staple, it had crossover appeal where others could relate hence the commercial success.

I am not a Jigga fan. I give Reasonable Doubt props, but it's really overrated (like Illmatic) with a couple of staple tracks. Nice album but lacks substance to me. Think Can't Knock the Hustle probably gave the album more attention that it should have. RTD is the goat hip-hop album since the 1990s and this is coming from someone with severe bias for all things west coast. :pachaha::lawd: and negative bias towards native born Jamaicans and first gen Jamaican-Americans/Brits:scust:
 
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Below is my analysis:

RTD to me was a GOAT concept hip-hop album, from the intro where Biggie was "birthed" into the hood to the ending with Suicidal Thoughts the dialogue with Puffy and the self inflicted gunshot and thud to the floor. :banderas:The features with Patra, Method Man etc. Biggie showed versatility with style even playing characters in songs like Gimme the Loot, using patois and Jamaican references (Biggup biggup/it's a stick up, stick up/and I'm shooting nikkas if they fukking hiccup) Skits that bled into the ending of Warning (You got a red dot on your head too, ohhh shyt!). More conscious tracks which spoke of the decline/decay of the city (No more coco levio 1-2-3, 1-2-3 all it is to me is a mystery/I hear you motherfukkers talk about it/but I stay seeing bodies with the motherfukking chalk around it - Things Done Changed). Club tracks like Big Poppa. Every song from start to finish delivered. Great production. It's also one of those CDs that doesn't get old. The simple cover art of the baby boy with an afro, sitting erect so innocent with confidence/cockiness and potential with "Ready to Die" above his head - like a metaphor of the unfortunate circumstances of black males in the hood OR could be an affirmation that men are ready to die for a change, as the album did change hiphop. Like I said (and others on the board) hip-hop would not be shyt without that Jamaican/Caribbean influence. That rhythm and cadence just adds something extra that multigenerational AAs don't have (I am a multigen AA btw :ufdup:). May explain why Jamaica, a tiny island, has a major impact on music, food and style. In addition to RTD being a hood staple, it had crossover appeal where others could relate hence the commercial success.

I am not a Jigga fan. I give Reasonable Doubt props, but it's really overrated (like Illmatic) with a couple of staple tracks. Nice album but lacks substance to me. Think Can't Knock the Hustle probably gave the album more attention that it should have. RTD is the goat hip-hop album since the 1990s and this is coming from someone with severe bias for all things west coast. :pachaha::lawd: and negative bias of native born and first gen Jamaicans Americans/Brits:scust:

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I can see your case for RTD being the best, it was as fleshed out as well as any album could be thematically, sonically etc. A more complete experience than most albums that have come out in this genre, and to me this is the best of 1994 (yes, better than Illmatic)

But I do think there are other albums on that level e.g. The Infamous, Cuban Linx, Liquid Swords, Death Certificate and maybe one or two others in terms of complete projects

But RTD somehow incorporated the club joints seamlessly into a very visceral and honest harsh reality type album better than any other
 
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