How serious is ghostwriting in HipHop ?

[1-8-7-Skillz]

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[SunZoo]

Rap supremacy is fictional. What do you really get for being a legend in hip-hop?

Nas and K-R-S selling out football stadiums here? I honestly don't know if they are.

Rakim opened for Kreayshawn.

Artists covering their work? Album of the Year nominations?

WWE at least has its own Hall of Fame and annual large-scale event to showcase their talent/legends. Hip-hop artists go into the rock-and-roll HOF, no?

You're talking about the Music Industry, not Hip Hop. You talking about album of the year nominations and who's selling outs stadiums, you sound like you don't respect this culture.

 

[1-8-7-Skillz]

Im still sure that almost EVERY major rapper has done this a couple times. Some admit it/some gets leaked and some dont

 

[SunZoo]

Im still sure that almost EVERY major rapper has done this a couple times. Some admit it/some gets leaked and some dont

Some people in sports use PEDS, some get caught, some don't. I know some sports fans that would love PEDs to be legal just to see what kind of fukkery/cartoon stats people would put up but most sensible people understand while it does happen, it is taboo for a good reason.

One of my posts from another thread.

I'll say this.

It's less about "ghost writing" as a pratice and more about the kind of precedent it sets for someone to be an openly ghost written act pushing music industry product. Rapper xyz utilizing the tents and getting rewarded for that out in the open...sets the table for it to be completely fine to tell people upfront, this guy/girl is a figure head of our think tank/music ensemble. We will reward artists with money, accolades and socially engineered adoration in order to shape what is worthy of such a thing as long as it's in our interests.

It's a slippery slope.

I Love Snoop...and I'm glad he was open and honest about having people write stuff for him. That doesn't negate his ability to rap, but it does remove him from the short list of names I would rattle off when I think about who is really bussin right now...I doubt he would put his own name in the conversation with certain guys.

I think that's a very fair position to take.

I think that kind of articulates what most people are thinking when they deride ghost writing and people who seem like they are just spearheading projects while getting "best rapper" awards and mentions. You have this movement to downplay the art of RAP with people saying shyt like "bars don't matter anymore"..pretty soon record labels will be able to plug and play whatever artist they want to spearhead whatever project they put together and they won't even need an actual rapper to do it because "the music is good though".

 

[CrimsonTider]

Ghostwriters >

 

[1-8-7-Skillz]

Fell free to Post more unknown ghostwritten songs here

 

[TheSickness]

It's show business, common industry practice there's a lot of threads on here on the subject and some older posters with industry ties have exposed some secrets. The first rap hit was ghostwritten.

The other day Honorable SKJ spoke on Skillz and a NY mixtape rapper who he did not name writing for Ma$e on Harlem World I'm guessing Cardan, not to mention verses lifted from Cam'ron from the Children of the Corn days both guys recycled verses. Ma$e wrote B.I.G.'s verse on 112's Only You and supposedly wrote his verse on Mo Money, Mo Problems too.

Art Barr has spoken on MC Juice writing Summertime and not Rakim for Will Smith. He's spoken on Gillie and Mikkey Halstead ghostwriting for Wayne (he sued Cash Money). Nicki also has writing credit on Lollipop and Drake on I'm Single.

There was a producer out there who claimed to have wrote verses on Jay's B*tches and Sisters. Also, the rumor that Lupe wrote on The Black Album exposed by one of Lupe's mans. Ma$e has writing credit on I Just Wanna Love U.

There was a thread on here talking about Stat Quo, Yung Berg, Roscoe Dash, Skeme, Kid Ink, Ty $ being major industry ghostwriters.

Ma$e wrote that and i think a guest verse for B.I.G.

The track that was always debatable, and i heard that Lupe wrote Allure, which is funny because Jay said that that's his favorite track.

I heard that this dude called Freck Billionaire wrote for Fabolous.
Rhymefest wrote Jesus Walks for Kanye, also a few other verses.

I heard from a few dudes form the west that this dude they called Corey otherwise known as Deadly Threat wrote A LOT of 2Pac's verses, and that everyone kept quiet because Suge already killed a nikka that told someone about how Threat wrote for Pac.

Crooked I wrote for Kurupt i think

 

[1-8-7-Skillz]

Ma$e wrote that and i think a guest verse for B.I.G.

The track that was always debatable, and i heard that Lupe wrote Allure, which is funny because Jay said that that's his favorite track.

I heard that this dude called Freck Billionaire wrote for Fabolous.
Rhymefest wrote Jesus Walks for Kanye, also a few other verses.

I heard from a few dudes form the west that this dude they called Corey otherwise known as Deadly Threat wrote A LOT of 2Pac's verses, and that everyone kept quiet because Suge already killed a nikka that told someone about how Threat wrote for Pac.

Crooked I wrote for Kurupt i think

There will probably never be proof for it, but its absolutely clear that ghostwriting is much much more common in the industry than we know

 

[JMD]

The Crooked/Kurupt rumor is not true. Crook supposedly wrote for Kurupt in the early 2000's when they were on Death Row but the problem is most of Kurupts lyrics from that era were

I doubt Crook has ever wrote anything remotely that wack

 

[1-8-7-Skillz]

The Crooked/Kurupt rumor is not true. Crook supposedly wrote for Kurupt in the early 2000's when they were on Death Row but the problem is most of Kurupts lyrics from that era were

I doubt Crook has ever wrote anything remotely that wack

I think Problem said he also wrote for Kurupt in the late 2000s

 

[1-8-7-Skillz]

Another lil fact about ghostwriting is that Snoop back in the death row days wrote for daz. On dogg food kurupt wrote a majority of his material and snoop was also involved in the writing.
Also "I Dont Hang" by Soopafly was written by Kurupt.

 

[west philly finest]

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The track that was always debatable, and i heard that Lupe wrote Allure, which is funny because Jay said that that's his favorite track./QUOTE]
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Never been debatable to any1 who isn't deaf, dumb, or a retarded dikkrider, and that's before Lupe's wack ass confirmed it's a lie.



There's no logical, fact based argument for the GOAT having a ghostwriter, especially a vastly inferior MC like Lupe, and with the people GOAT has beefed with there's a 0% chance any of them wouldn't have exposed him if there was any truth to this bullshyt

 

[CrimsonTider]

There will probably never be proof for it, but its absolutely clear that ghostwriting is much much more common in the industry than we know

Another lil fact about ghostwriting is that Snoop back in the death row days wrote for daz. On dogg food kurupt wrote a majority of his material and snoop was also involved in the writing.
Also "I Dont Hang" by Soopafly was written by Kurupt.

Rapper labels are basically used for ideas and direction of new music for whatever rapper is the hottest at that time

I don't believe rappers have the major label backed writing camps where up and coming artist are just writing songs and they don't know who will end up taking the song and using it like Beyoncé and Rihanna have

 

[1-8-7-Skillz]

I don't believe rappers have the major label backed writing camps where up and coming artist are just writing songs and they don't know who will end up taking the song and using it like Beyoncé and Rihanna have

Nah its not like that, but that example I posted is different because of the fact that both dre & daz are producers first, so its not that big of a deal to have snoop write for them. Nobody expects dr dre to write dope rhymes, hes a producer that just happens to have a dope voice & flow.