How those Mcnabb years looking now Eagles Fans......

[phillycavsfan]

And the Eagles never had a POWER running game. It more a finesse running game with Dunce and Westbrook mostly catching screens but they both were good running backs.

Do you mean Duce? Staley was a power running back when he was here.

 

[Born2BKing]

Exactly I can't believe dudes are using "Quality of the Division" to discredit Donovan's run. As if Brady and Peyton's Divisions were lighting it up. If you think about During Donovan's Time, Dallas and The Giants made it to the playoffs 5 and 3 times so it's not like the whole Division was trash. Only the Skins didn't make it to the playoffs that much and even then they still got there 2 times. The NFC EAST always sent about 2 teams during Donovan's time but most than not he was the Going.

I know right, because the damn AFC East has been stinking up the joint for years.

 

[feelosofer]

I'll say this McNabb is the most disrespected very good/elite QB there ever was you got dudes for Vick who is about to be become a footnote in history just off the strength of RG3 and what he is about to do. In fact McNabb right now would be better then a few teams starting QB's, Vikings included.

 

[THE MACHINE]

You're not going to force me into a position to denigrating McNabb, but to say he "OWNED" is isn't putting in it's proper perspective.

Between 1999-2006, the Giants only had 3 seasons with records above .500; Dallas had 3; the Redskins had 3 and the Eagles had 6.

During McNabb's NFC championship years, (with the exception of the Giants in 2000), their division rivals made the playoffs maybe ONCE each in those four years.

To put it in plain english, their competition sucked. But that doesn't take away from what he has accomplished and brought to the city--if you're old enough to remember, I don't recall anyone putting him down for that. His "history" is put in it's proper perspective. What eventually ruined his legacy is the fact that he had been dropped and traded several times before being barred from the league altogether. Ironically, like Iverson, the END of his career is the lasting impression that people have.

As a matter of fact, everyone supported him while he carried the team on his back in that era. Everyone critisized the administration for NOT given him any weapons to work with which eventually brought on TO. But as time went on...people were simply TIRED of his BS and his underacheiving in the post season after around 2006 or so. This is one of those times where numbers just do not tell the whole story. His play making decisions in crunch time situations are what brought criticism to his playing style and his eventual replacement.

Like Reid, he has accomplished a lot in Philly, but the bottomline is still the bottomline. You can recite statistics all day until the sun rises, but people in Philly are restless for a championship and I think it was pretty crystal clear that it was NOT going to happen with him there. Some of his rabid defenders just need to understand and accept that small factoid.

That's not necessarily terrible competition if you assume in 7 years there will be nine teams above .500 in your division. That means every year there will be another team in your division above .500 and two of those years there will be two teams. That's fairly solid competition.

 

[FTBS]

Outside of T.O. who the hell did McNabb have to throw to all those years? And what happened when he did get T.O.? Superbowl appearance.

Man if those nikkas could've just stayed together. We were robbed brehs. We were robbed.

 

[Born2BKing]

I'll say this McNabb is the most disrespected very good/elite QB there ever was you got dudes for Vick who is about to be become a footnote in history just off the strength of RG3 and what he is about to do. In fact McNabb right now would be better then a few teams starting QB's, Vikings included.

Yep but the sad truth is, if you are a black qb you have to be elite or you're worthless. You won't find many middle tier black qb's who get 5-10 years of only above average play.

 

[phillycavsfan]

I'll say this McNabb is the most disrespected very good/elite QB there ever was you got dudes for Vick who is about to be become a footnote in history just off the strength of RG3 and what he is about to do. In fact McNabb right now would be better then a few teams starting QB's, Vikings included.

Which is funny seeing that he got replaced by the guy's who there right now.

And yeah, he's probably better than what the Jets, Chiefs and Cards have, but is that much of a compliment?

 

[FTBS]

Do you mean Duce? Staley was a power running back when he was here.

Eagles were actually pretty conservative during McNabbs first few years. It seems like once came to town Reid just said "fukk it we throwin' it up!" And for some reason he maintained this mantra even after was gone and Kevin Curtis and co. were out there.

 

[FTBS]

Which is funny seeing that he got replaced by the guy's who there right now.

And yeah, he's probably better than what the Jets, Chiefs and Cards have, but is that much of a compliment?

You honestly don't think Mcnabb could've done what Ponder did this year? Dude did nothing wrong in Minny, they just couldnt' hold on to leads and APAD wasn't playing at the same level. He's better then what they had in Philly too.

 

[Rapmastermind]

You honestly don't think Mcnabb could've done what Ponder did this year? Dude did nothing wrong in Minny, they just couldnt' hold on to leads and APAD wasn't playing at the same level. He's better then what they had in Philly too.

Exactly in the 6 games Mcnabb played, 5 of them he had leads before the Defense gave it up @ Minny. Mcnabb got benched cause they had a young rookie and wanted to play him. In Washington Shanahan did Donovan Dirty, he was actually on pace to break the Redskins record for most passing yards in a season before he benched. I mean they gave the man an 80 Million Dollar Contract and benched him during the season. WTF?

One of the reasons outside him coming off the Heisman and being a great prospect that they got RGIII was cause Shanahan knew he had some serious racial damage control with how he handled Donovan. Ironically both Donovan's X teams made the Playoffs this year. Your telling me with a little more time to gel with his team Donovan couldn't do the same? He never got the time in Washington or Minny to full gel with the teams. As for the Eagles I'm saying if Donovan played these last 3 years, they would of all been playoff seasons, no less than 2 playoff seasons out of the 3.

 

[FTBS]

Exactly in the 6 games Mcnabb played, 5 of them he had leads before the Defense gave it up @ Minny. Mcnabb got benched cause they had a young rookie and wanted to play him. In Washington Shanahan did Donovan Dirty, he was actually on pace to break the Redskins record for most passing yards in a season before he benched. I mean they gave the man an 80 Million Dollar Contract and benched him during the season. WTF?

One of the reasons outside him coming off the Heisman and being a great prospect that they got RGIII was cause Shanahan knew he had some serious racial damage control with how he handled Donovan. Ironically both Donovan's X teams made the Playoffs this year. Your telling me with a little more time to gel with his team Donovan couldn't do the same? He never got the time in Washington or Minny to full gel with the teams. As for the Eagles I'm saying if Donovan played these last 3 years, they would of all been playoff seasons, no less than 2 playoff seasons out of the 3.

Ironically Donovan's most recent two teams had top 3 rushing offenses this year.

Shanahan tailored his offense to RGIIIs strengths and actually...wait for it...ran the fukking ball. What a novel concept?

Philly would've certainly been better with McNabb out there the last 3 years. One thing Donovan did not do in Philly was turn the ball over. One thing that has plagued them the last couple season especially is turnovers. It's just funny how nikkas wanna talk about how McNabb looked after he left Philly however nikkas don't wanna talk about how Philly looked after he left, despite having all those weapons and a dynamic guy like Vick behind center.

 

[Malik]

They boo'd that nikka the damn day he was drafted. No coach or player should want to play for those shytty as fans up there.

We're not shytty fans, we're just passionate Everyone in our division has a ring except us. That shyt burns breh In Philly, we just tell it how it is. If you can't handle it, then If you suck, then you suck. If you bring us a championship, we'll love you forever. Probably build you a statue. I remember when the Phillies won. It was wild as hell out there It was all love that night. No nikkas got killed (edit: alot less nikkas got killed that night)

Being an Eagles fan is rough. We were basically the Bills of the 2000s sans going to the Superbowl. Every single year, we were right there hanging with the Patriots, the Colts, the Steelers but, we could never get over the final hump while they did repeatedly. It hurt watching the Eagles lose to the Patriots in the SB by 3 points. It hurt watching the Eagles throw the Cardinals game away when a Philly/Pittsburgh SB would've been and it hurt watching Vick lead a fairytale monster season only to throw an interception in the final seconds against GB. Its not that we dont appreciate Vick or McNabb. We just tired of being "good". We want a fukkin ring nikka Getting B's on every test after you studied your ass off gets annoying after a while You want a fukking A goddammit You just want a fukking A

 

[phillycavsfan]

Philly would've certainly been better with McNabb out there the last 3 years. One thing Donovan did not do in Philly was turn the ball over. One thing that has plagued them the last couple season especially is turnovers. It's just funny how nikkas wanna talk about how McNabb looked after he left Philly however nikkas don't wanna talk about how Philly looked after he left, despite having all those weapons and a dynamic guy like Vick behind center.

No they wouldn't. You really think McNabb would've been better than Vick in 2010? Keep dreaming.

In his last year the offense really struggled to move the ball because McNabb accuracy for short and intermediate passes was so inconsistent. He didn't get intercepted much because he was always throwing passes low, and often into the ground a few yards in front of receivers.

We needed to move on, and it's unlikely we were going to get offered a second rounder if McNabb had played another year in Philly.

 

[Rapmastermind]

No they wouldn't. You really think McNabb would've been better than Vick in 2010? Keep dreaming.

In his last year the offense really struggled to move the ball because McNabb accuracy for short and intermediate passes was so inconsistent. He didn't get intercepted much because he was always throwing passes low, and often into the ground a few yards in front of receivers.

We needed to move on, and it's unlikely we were going to get offered a second rounder if McNabb had played another year in Philly.

Look at Mcnabb numbers in 2009. It's funny your bring up Mcnabb last season. The Eagles went 11-5 and had they beat Dallas in that last game they would of gotten a bye week and been 2nd seed, that's how close they were from another NFC title game run. How have they done since?

10': 10 Wins
11: 8 Wins
12: 4 Wins

They haven't even had a better year win wise since Mcnabb left. He would of been just fine in 2010 and most likely wouldn't of been 1 and done like Vick was. Mcnabb was just starting to Gel with Desean and Shady was just getting started to replace Westbrook. We would of been just fine with Donovan. And remember, Vick wasn't Mcnabb replacement. Kolb was and he was no where near Donovan even at that time.

 

[FTBS]

No they wouldn't. You really think McNabb would've been better than Vick in 2010? Keep dreaming.

In his last year the offense really struggled to move the ball because McNabb accuracy for short and intermediate passes was so inconsistent. He didn't get intercepted much because he was always throwing passes low, and often into the ground a few yards in front of receivers.

We needed to move on, and it's unlikely we were going to get offered a second rounder if McNabb had played another year in Philly.

He would have been the same McNabb that he'd been before only with some really nice weapons surrounding him. He may not have got off to the video game start that Vick did but he probably doesn't get hurt and miss those games in the middle of the season and they prolly would've been better down the stretch and in the playoffs. Who know what could have happened with McNabb that year.

No denying that McNabb wasn't the most accurate guy. The only thing is Vick isnt' either and add to that that he makes bad decisions. Neither Kolb or Vick proved to be better than McNabb either before or after Mcnabb was traded. I could see if you had a Steve Young or Aaron Rodgers waiting in the wings but basically he got shipped out for Kolbs extra regular ass and for a smaller, more injury/mistake prone version of McNabb.

McNabb deserved a better end than that and Fat Andy took all that karma in the face.