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As someone who considers themselves Pan African and absolutely HATES the tribalism between different black nationalities/ethnicities.

I have to say I don't think feeling like FBA's/ AA's wanting to have their own ethnic history and individuality is an unreasonable thing.

I love my African and Caribbean brothers and sisters, but y'all get to have it both ways:

You were born in America and immersed in African American culture as a black person

But then you get to go to cultural events and be "Nigerian" or "Jamaican" with your family and community.

Loud and proud during West Indian parades but get in your feeling when FBA's want to claim their own thing because y'all feel entitled to that as well

I hate tribalism and don't condone shyting on other black people for dumb reasons

But I see why my FBA brehs are frustrated.

What?

I've not met one African or Caribbean who's upset at traditional African Americans (Tariq is weird to me so will take some time to use that term of his) celebrating their unique history and greatness. More of that, the better.

And yes, Africans and Caribbean's who look to shyt on, or denigrate traditional African Americans who are an integral part of this country deserve to be shamed. No one can do that in my presence anyways. (I've checked people for using the word akata in front of me, it's literally offensive to my ears when used like that)

But I'm just not aware of diaspora black antipathy towards African Americans being a mainstream thing. And for the few who engage in it, it's mostly retarded ignorance.
 

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What?

I've not met one African or Caribbean who's upset at traditional African Americans (Tariq is weird to me so will take some time to use that term of his) celebrating their unique history and greatness. More of that, the better.

And yes, Africans and Caribbean's who look to shyt on, or denigrate traditional African Americans who are an integral part of this country deserve to be shamed. No one can do that in my presence anyways. (I've checked people for using the word akata in front of me, it's literally offensive to my ears when used like that)

But I'm just not aware of diaspora black antipathy towards African Americans being a mainstream thing. And for the few who engage in it, it's mostly retarded ignorance.
Search the word "akata" on X, then come back.
 

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It's true that some have been on the rac00n train and did disgusting things in and outside of public spheres, but the vast majority has not.

What he had been explaining was known to me years ago and I pointed these rings out long before there was an FBA or Marcus Sander (pseudonym Tariq Nasheed), but the problem is that you have ea hard time with reasoning objectively. This is a real character flawed.

When that Nigerian guy from the GOP wanted to ban Black History Month (because of his ignorance) I saw a lot of Nigerians speak up against him.

Now, over the span of tine I also tried to figure out from where some of the people get these views?

1) they are conservative so they will go directly to the Republican Party, because of many different reasons. a) Black Americans were Republicans before the Political Alignment / Realignment. b) and an important factor is people like Thomas Showell FBA Republicans who whisper all this in their ears.


For me? All you had to do was look at the threads I have made and participate in.















And so on...

The Egyptsearch site is down at the moment, but when it gets active you can read the battle I had with a white supremacist:

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=012973;p=1



For Phil Scott I used to follow his channel but I no longer do that, because he used to diss Black women on a regular for a nice payday. He has been part of the problem and took on a new grift.
 
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Search the word "akata" on X, then come back.

X is full of mentally retarded people. I mean that literally. I could search the n-word on there and get mad hits. They're the retarded loud sliver of the population.

I'm speaking about in person. I move among a lot of traditional African Americans, Caribbeans and Africans. Nothing but respect and love for everyone's backgrounds. ESPECIALLY traditional African Americans.

Juneteenth for example, we know who that holiday is celebrating. Not one nikka I know was upset about that
 

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Where is your paper to refute the common denominator of science?

The above you posted is pseudoscience.

The Olmec theory came from Andrzej Wiercinski and historian Frederick Peterson, not from Dr. Van Sertima.


“The pioneering study of ADNMT carried out on Olmec individuals, one from San Lorenzo and the other from Loma del Zapote, resulted,

in both cases, in the unequivocal presence of the distinctive mutations of the “A” maternal lineage.

That is, the origin of the Olmecs is not in Africa but in America, since they share the most abundant of the five mitochondrial haplogroups characteristic of the indigenous populations of our continent: A, B, C, D and X.”

[…]

Enrique Villamar Becerril. Physical anthropologist from ENAH. Candidate for a doctor in Mesoamerican studies (UNAM), with an analysis of ADNMT in bone remains from various sites of the Preclassic period.”

(Villamar Becerril Enrique, "DNA Studies and the Origin of the Olmecs", Mexican Archeology, no. 150, pp. 40-41.)



“These regions include the Gulf Coast and Oaxaca. The Gulf Coast was initially peopled by the Olmecs (the earliest known major Mesoamerican civilisation) and was later home to the city of El Tajín.”

(Xavier Roca-Rada, NLM provides access to scientific literature. Inclusion in an NLM database does not imply endorsement of, or agreement with, the contents by NLM or the National Institutes of Health. Learn more: | 2020 Nov; 11(11): 1346.)



Furthermore, can you explain this historical documentation?


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The genetic ancestry of American Creole cattle inferred from uniparental and autosomal genetic markers​


“Results with mtDNA indicate that T1c-lineages are rare in Iberia but common in Africa and are well represented in Creoles from Brazil and Colombia, lending support to a direct African influence on Creoles.”


Why the above?

Americas’ first cowboys were enslaved Africans, ancient cow DNA suggests


  1. Upon a writ of error to a Circuit Court of the United States, the transcript of the record of all the proceedings in the case is brought before this court, and is open to its inspection and revision.
  2. When a plea to the jurisdiction, in abatement, is overruled by the court upon demurrer, and the defendant pleads in bar, and upon these pleas the final judgment of the court is in his favor--if the plaintiff brings a writ of error, the judgment of the court upon the plea in abatement is before this court, although it was in favor of the plaintiff--and if the court erred in overruling it, the judgment must be reversed, and a mandate issued to the Circuit Court to dismiss the case for want of jurisdiction.
  3. In the Circuit Courts of the United States, the record must show that the case is one in which by the Constitution and laws of the United States, the court had jurisdiction--and if this does not appear, and the court gives judgment either for plaintiff or defendant, it is error, and the judgment must be reversed by this court--and the parties cannot by consent waive the objection to the jurisdiction of the Circuit Court.
  4. A free negro of the African race, whose ancestors were brought to this country and sold as slaves, is not a "citizen" within the meaning of the Constitution of the United States.
In this ruling, the U.S. Supreme Court stated that enslaved people were not citizens of the United States and, therefore, could not expect any protection from the federal government or the courts. The opinion also stated that Congress had no authority to ban slavery from a Federal territory



Patterns of Genetic Ancestry of Self-Reported African Americans​

Genome-wide ancestry estimates of African Americans show average proportions of 73.2% African, 24.0% European, and 0.8% Native American ancestry (Table 1).




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The only time you hear Black History facts where the data is from Black Historians and Black Researchers/Scientist is Pseudoscience is from White Supremacist and Tethers/Black Immigrants. Dr. Van Sertima is not Pseudoscience, he was a respected doctor and researcher.

Also your, come from a Carribean background that is why you do not like FBA as a lineage, because it excludes you and your immigrant family. That is the reason why you do not agree with the fact that Black people were in America before Slavery, because it excludes your family.

And in fact I have family members who immigrated to the US in the 1960s.
I am Caribbean of West African descent, with a sprinkle of Levantine.

I know it’s complicated.
 

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i aint gon get emotional i see yall getting yall shyt off

Yall sound like yall dont like Africans legit tho lol

im not FBA, 1st generation immigrant

But im proud to say I was born and raised in Black American culture

I respect what yall tryna do just hope yall dont think africans yall enemies

Regardless of the discourse you'll never catch me hating someone from the diaspora just because they're from the diaspora I don't rock like that besides we all in this shyt together whether we like it or not. :wow:
 

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X is full of mentally retarded people. I mean that literally. I could search the n-word on there and get mad hits. They're the retarded loud sliver of the population.

I'm speaking about in person. I move among a lot of traditional African Americans, Caribbeans and Africans. Nothing but respect and love for everyone's backgrounds. ESPECIALLY traditional African Americans.

Juneteenth for example, we know who that holiday is celebrating. Not one nikka I know was upset about that
As if they would say it out loud in front of the target and get roasted into Bolivia or mollywhopped. Think, breh.:comeon:
 

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The only time you hear Black History facts where the data is from Black Historians and Black Researchers/Scientist is Pseudoscience is from White Supremacist and Tethers/Black Immigrants. Dr. Van Sertima is not Pseudoscience, he was a respected doctor and researcher.
Science is science a molecule is a molecule, math is math, physics is physics. Only a pseudo intellectual would bring this ridiculous arguments you did who uses this as a smoke screen to defend pseudo intellectualism. You have never set foot in the Amazon region and seen an actual Amerindian, have you?

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"They go completely naked except that around their loins they wear skins of small animals like martens, with a narrow belt of grass around the body, to which they tie various tails of other animals which hang down to the knees; the rest of the body is bare, and so is the head. Some of them wear garlands of birds’ feathers. They are dark in color, not unlike the Ethiopians, with thick black hair, not very long, tied back behind the head like a small tail".
"The Written Record of the Voyage of 1524 of Giovanni da Verrazano as recorded in a letter to Francis I, King of France, July 8th, 1524

However,

1) They are dark in color,
2) not unlike the Ethiopians, (means not like them).
3) with thick black hair,
4) not very long,
5) tied back behind the head like a small tail.".

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Notice the bone straight slick black hair, like the Amerindians in South America. It looks similar to this as well.



Ancient DNA From Frozen Hair May Untangle ... Roots

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“We’ve blogged about EDAR before; Could it be hair form?, EDAR controls hair thicknessand EDAR and hair thickness. The story here is simple, before the populations ancestral to the Native Americans had left eastern Asia a mutation on the EDAR gene swept nearly to fixation among these populations. The derived SNP in particular is correlated with the thicker hair typical of East Asians and Native Americans.”


Most people of East Asian descent have thick, straight hair. This corresponds with a SNP (rs3827760) in the EDAR gene which is involved in hair follicle development. The ancestral allele of this SNP is the A-allele. The G-allele is the newly derived allele that leads to the thick, straight hair. In certain parts of Asia, almost all people have the G-allele (see Fig.1B). People with the GG genotype at this SNP have thicker hair compared to those with the AA genotype due to the modification of a single amino acid in the protein.Those with the AG genotype have hair slightly thinner than those with GG, but still thick when compared to Europeans and Africans (likely AA) [2, 3].

A recent genome wide association scan has found a SNP (single nucleotide polymorphism) called rs11803731 in the TCHH gene which accounts for about 6% of hair curliness. The TCHH gene encodes a protein called trichohyalin, which is known to be expressed at high levels in hair follicles and has been shown to be involved in the cross-linking of the keratin filaments found in hair. The ANCESTRAL allele of this SNP (the A-allele) is present in the worldwide population. Sometime during human history, a mutation lead to the emergence of the T-allele (called the derived allele in Fig. 1A). The T-allele causes an amino acid to change from leucine to methionine at position 790 of the TCHH gene.”



Shovel shape of upper incisors is a common characteristic in Asian and Native American populations but is rare or absent in African and European populations. Like other common dental traits, genetic polymorphisms involved in the tooth shoveling have not yet been clarified. In ectodysplasin A receptor (EDAR), where dysfunctional mutations cause hypohidrotic ectodermal dysplasia, there is a nonsynonymous-derived variant, 1540C (rs3827760), that has a geographic distribution similar to that of the tooth shoveling. This allele has been recently reported to be associated with Asian-specific hair thickness.”
[…]
In Asian and Asia-derived populations, dental variations have often been described as “Sinodonty” and “Sundadonty.” Sinodonty, common among East Asian and Native American populations, is a combination of dental characteristics that relatively often include upper first and second incisors (UI1 and UI2) that are shovel-shaped and not aligned with the other teeth, upper first premolars (UP1) with one root, and lower first molars (LM1) with three roots”



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Yellow Hawk - Yanktonai

written, illustrated, and published by Edward S. Curtis ; edited by Frederick Webb Hodge ; foreword by Theodore Roosevelt ; field research conducted under the patronage of J. Pierpont Morgan. ; Original photogravures produced in Boston by John Andrew & Son from 1904-1908.




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Dr. Fatimah L.C. Jackson received her BA (cum laudewith Distinction in all subjects), MA, and PhD from Cornell University.


Dr. Van Sertima was not a pseudo scientist, but he got his doctrine from a Polish man who made false claims. Dr. Van Sertima was thought and trained by and in universities of... you guest it.
 
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Also your, come from a Carribean background that is why you do not like FBA as a lineage, because it excludes you and your immigrant family.


It's you, not your and it's Caribbean not "Carribean". The word stems from Carib Indians, you loony.

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"Maroon Societies is a systematic study of the communities formed by escaped slaves in the Caribbean, Latin America, and the United States. These societies ranged from small bands that survived less than a year to powerful states encompassing thousands of members and surviving for generations and even centuries."


"Caribbean immigration to the United States was relatively small during the early nineteenth century but it grew significantly after the Civil War. The foreign-born black population, which was almost wholly Caribbean in origin, increased by 500 percent between 1850 and 1900, from four thousand to more than twenty thousand."
[...]
Well into the eighteenth century, the majority of bondspeople in the North had either lived or were born in the Caribbean. In New York, which had the North's largest enslaved population, people from the Caribbean continued to outnumber Africans brought directly from the continent. Although those of West Indian origin gained a reputation for rebelliousness after a revolt in New York City in 1712 and although laws placed higher duties on them, the imbalance continued. One estimate puts the ratio of Caribbean to African slaves at three to one between 1715 and 1730. Of captives introduced by New Yorkers between 1715 and 1741, the largest number came from Jamaica, followed by Africa, Barbados, and Antigua.

Caribbean immigrants also figured prominently among the free people of color in the North. Prince Hall, who is believed to be from Barbados, established black freemasonry in the United States and was a distinguished leader of Boston's African-American community during the eighteenth century. (As late as 1860 one in five black Bostonians had been born in the Caribbean islands.) In 1822 Denmark Vesey, who was born in Africa or in the Caribbean and had been enslaved in the Virgin Islands and Saint Domingue, organized an elaborate slave uprising in Charleston, South Carolina; it was eventually uncovered before it could be launched. In 1827 John B. Russwurm of Jamaica and his African-American colleague Samuel E. Cornish started Freedom's Journal, the first black newspaper.
(Caribbean Migration)

 

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That is the reason why you do not agree with the fact that Black people were in America before Slavery, because it excludes your family.
I am not an immigrant you looney. fukking dumbass, the transatlantic slave trade took place all over the Americas, you imbecile.

"During the Third Anglo-Dutch War in 1673, the Dutch managed to occupy the city again and renamed it New Orange.

However, with the Treaty of Westminster in 1674, the Dutch returned the city to the Brits, who renamed it New York. The Dutch got Suriname in return, which was of great strategic and resource importance back in the day."


"On May 11, 1647 Stuyvesant arrived with four ships of soldiers, councilors and his wife. New Amsterdam residents gathered to watch him come ashore to relieve Kieft of his job. Anna van Angola, a widowed woman who had recently received rights to a farm, Anthony Congo, Jan Negro and other African residents watched with anticipation as the new Director General assured the crowd that he wanted to treat them “like a father over his children.” The crowd hooted as Kieft left. Stuyvesant could see the disorder that he had read about."
[...]
"Simultaneously, a confluence of economic needs of the home country and New Amsterdam’s flourishing created the conditions for an increase in the slave trade. There was a dramatic increase in the number of slaves brought to Manhattan. In 1654 a ship brought 300 Guinean slaves to be sold in New Amsterdam’s market. Although by the mid-1660s 20% of New Amsterdam was slaves, the economy was throttled by a scarcity of skilled labor. This situation created an opportunity for the slaves."



"Manuel de Gerrit de Reus, Sijmon Congo, and Paulo Angola were among the first enslaved men who lived in New Netherland."
[...]
"Because New Netherland's enslaved population did not leave any written records, their stories often remain untold. Thankfully, court records, land deeds, church records, and official correspondence, among others, do mention Manuel de Gerrit de Reus, Sijmon Congo, Paulo Angola, and many of their fellow enslaved Africans, thus leaving invaluable resources that allow us to tell at least part of their stories. Like the plaque and monument in Lower Manhattan, this exhibit hopes to draw attention to this important part of New York history, a history that is often forgotten."


"Legal ambiguities may have reflected an uncertainty about slavery as it developed over time. Nevertheless, before 1664, New Netherland's enslaved population often successfully navigated the colony's judicial system. Because the law did not restrict the enslaved population, they were able to participate in the colony's courts--often on an equal footing to their free counterparts. At the same time, the colony's judicial system adjusted to the slave presence and dealt with slavery-related issues. After the English conquered the Dutch colony in 1664, free and enslaved Africans slowly began to disappear from the colony's court records as petitioners, plaintiffs, and defendants. By the late seventeenth century, the courts no longer recognized slave testimonies unless they testified against other enslaved people. Several ordinances of the late seventeenth century limited the freedom of movement of the enslaved population, and they were no longer allowed to engage in trade. New York authorities enforced additional restrictions on the movement of New York's free and enslaved Africans throughout the early eighteenth century. Opportunities of freedom and legal equality that had been available to slaves in Dutch New Netherland would become unattainable in English New York."


"It’s important, Newby-Alexander said, because African American history is often “othered” as an optional component of American history.
[…]
Critical race theory is a concept taught in law school, Newby-Alexander said, and unrelated to the African American History Education Commission."


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“A free negro of the African race, whose ancestors were brought to this country and sold as slaves, is not a "citizen" within the meaning of the Constitution of the United States.”






 
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i aint gon get emotional i see yall getting yall shyt off

Yall sound like yall dont like Africans legit tho lol

im not FBA, 1st generation immigrant

But im proud to say I was born and raised in Black American culture

I respect what yall tryna do just hope yall dont think africans yall enemies
Breh we have no animosity with our distance kinfolk.
Just respect our culture and lineage like we respect yours. Everything is kosher
 

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It's you, not your and it's Caribbean not "Carribean". The word stems from Carib Indians, you loony.

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"Maroon Societies is a systematic study of the communities formed by escaped slaves in the Caribbean, Latin America, and the United States. These societies ranged from small bands that survived less than a year to powerful states encompassing thousands of members and surviving for generations and even centuries."


"Caribbean immigration to the United States was relatively small during the early nineteenth century but it grew significantly after the Civil War. The foreign-born black population, which was almost wholly Caribbean in origin, increased by 500 percent between 1850 and 1900, from four thousand to more than twenty thousand."
[...]
Well into the eighteenth century, the majority of bondspeople in the North had either lived or were born in the Caribbean. In New York, which had the North's largest enslaved population, people from the Caribbean continued to outnumber Africans brought directly from the continent. Although those of West Indian origin gained a reputation for rebelliousness after a revolt in New York City in 1712 and although laws placed higher duties on them, the imbalance continued. One estimate puts the ratio of Caribbean to African slaves at three to one between 1715 and 1730. Of captives introduced by New Yorkers between 1715 and 1741, the largest number came from Jamaica, followed by Africa, Barbados, and Antigua.

Caribbean immigrants also figured prominently among the free people of color in the North. Prince Hall, who is believed to be from Barbados, established black freemasonry in the United States and was a distinguished leader of Boston's African-American community during the eighteenth century. (As late as 1860 one in five black Bostonians had been born in the Caribbean islands.) In 1822 Denmark Vesey, who was born in Africa or in the Caribbean and had been enslaved in the Virgin Islands and Saint Domingue, organized an elaborate slave uprising in Charleston, South Carolina; it was eventually uncovered before it could be launched. In 1827 John B. Russwurm of Jamaica and his African-American colleague Samuel E. Cornish started Freedom's Journal, the first black newspaper.
(Caribbean Migration)


I do not care where the word stems from, lol. You are an immigrant in FBA business. You're doing jumping tether jumping jacks, like what you said you are Caribbean, you're not FBA.

Also, you said your family immigrated to the USA in the 1960s, after FBAs fought for Civil Rights laws that allowed your family to flee the Caribbean

I am Caribbean of West African descent, with a sprinkle of Levantine.

I know it’s complicated.
 

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I am not an immigrant you looney. fukking dumbass, the transatlantic slave trade took place all over the Americas, you imbecile.



Yes, you are an immigrant; you come from an immigrant background.


You are Caribbean; your family is from the Caribbean. Your family left the Caribbean and fled to the USA; that is called immigration lol.


You are an immigrant, but now you are a tether because you are trying to lie and say you are not an immigrant.

I am Caribbean of West African descent, with a sprinkle of Levantine.

I know it’s complicated.

He's from the Caribbean. And in fact I have family members who immigrated to the US in the 1960s.
 
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It’s somewhat in the middle. He sells a product and people buy it. No problem.

The funny part is that he crowdfunds the projects people donate to, and he sells that same product back to the people who donated.

Usually when you donate to a crowdfund you also purchase the product. That the protocol.

Also, a few years back he spread the lie that Ethiopians hate Black Americans.

Here is a Black American woman in Ethiopia being welcomed.








The coon part is that he lies to a bunch of uneducated people, who take everything he says seriously.

This is a lie.

When he crowdfunds you donate and automatically get a copy of the dvd or project. It’s just paying upfront. That is not a scam or a con.
 
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