“I am A Foundational Black American” - Ryan Coogler

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This is a lie.

When he crowdfunds you donate and automatically get a copy of the dvd or project. It’s just paying upfront. That is not a scam or a con.

That guy was exposed as a Caribbean tether, and tried to deny his background.

He's the new @Professor Emeritus
 

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Interesting how he claims fba instead of ados which came first. And it seems like people saying they fba should be saying they are dofba or descendants of foundational black americans.
 

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I do not care where the word stems from, lol. You are an immigrant in FBA business. You're doing jumping tether jumping jacks, like what you said you are Caribbean, you're not FBA.
You don’t care about the ethymology of the word Caribbean, because you are a dumbass.

And I’m not an immigrant. Do you even know that the word immigrant means? lol


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Also, you said your family immigrated to the USA in the 1960s, after FBAs fought for Civil Rights laws that allowed your family to flee the Caribbean

Yeah, I did say that I have family members who migrated to the USA in the 60s. I have no idea what the motives were when they left. All I know is that they are academics.


And yes, some Black Americans fought for immigration rights. This was never denied of ignored by me, but I do know that it was not all.

You are so dumb and ignorant, when you have no idea who they are.

Meanwhile it’s whites who marginalise Black Americans not Black immigrants.
 
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That guy was exposed as a Caribbean tether, and tried to deny his background.

He's the new @Professor Emeritus
You are dumb, nothing was exposed. People asked me my background and I told them. As if that is supposed to be a secret.

You are so dumb you don’t even know what the word exposed means. Hilarious.

Nor do you know what the word tether means, or what Tariq means by it. lol

The Guyanese was exchanged for NY and enslaved people were taken in both directions. Thus is why my genealogy (in the genetic tree) shows common ancestors in the USA.

"The first direct shipment of enslaved Africans arrived in New Amsterdam in 1655. The voyage of the White Horse came in the wake of significant changes in the Dutch Atlantic. In this blog, American historian Dennis Maika outlines how family and business connections shaped the development of a slave-trading center in Manhattan."
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"The Dutch West India Company had thus far never sent enslaved Africans to New Netherland, in spite of their hints and unfulfilled promises. The arrival of the first vessel to sail from West Central Africa was unique in another way: it was organized and funded not by the West India Company but exclusively by Dutch private investors."
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"Actively involved in the Brazil-West African trade, De Sweerts saw an opportunity to divert African captives previously intended for the sugar plantations of Pernambuco or Paramaribo to the West Indies and New Netherland. He hired Meijndert Lourensz Swart, a seasoned skipper with experience navigating and trading in the Gulf of Guinea, to secure a cargo of West African captives and take them to New Amsterdam for sale."


"The African slave rebellions in 1763 and 1823 were formative moments in the nation's history. African slaves were transported to Guyana; in contrast, East Indians came as indentured laborers. Guyana's story was a struggle to free itself from colonial rule and the lingering effects of colonialism.

The Dutch were the first Europeans to settle in modern-day Guyana. In 1616, the Dutch established the first European settlement in Guyana, a trading post twenty-five kilometers upstream from the mouth of the Essequibo River."



“This instrument consists of a gourd banjo body and a banjo neck made by Wm. E. Boucher, Jr., that was likely attached to the gourd body at a later date. The gourd recalls the banjo’s African roots. The earliest sightings of banjo-like instruments in the Western Hemisphere date from the 1680s and describe enslaved Africans in the Caribbean playing plucked lutes with gourd bodies. Because of the fragility of gourds and the ephemeral quality of early pre-manufactured folk banjos, only two early gourd banjo-like instruments are known to exist. One was collected in Suriname before 1777 and the other was found in Haiti before 1872. The gourd body on this instrument shows wear and, while the neck that was originally attached to it has been lost, it is nevertheless one of very few extant pre-20th century gourd banjo bodies found in the Western Hemisphere.

The 5-string banjo with a steam-bent wooden hoop first appeared in the late 1830s. By 1845, William Boucher, a successful Baltimore musical instrument retailer and drum maker, had begun to make banjos. His workshop was the first to produce banjos in substantial quantities. This banjo neck has refined design details that exemplify Boucher’s excellent and inventive craftsmanship. These include the delicately proportioned headstock shaped like a violin peghead, and the double ogee where the short 5th string tuning peg is located on the top edge of the fingerboard.

Why the highly refined Boucher neck is attached to a gourd banjo body usually associated with a pre-manufactured folk instrument is unknown. One explanation is that Boucher neck was repurposed to replace the missing neck from the gourd body in order to produce a playable banjo. Another explanation is that the two parts were attached by a dealer simply to meet a collector’s request for a gourd banjo rather than to construct a playable instrument. (Peter Szego, 2020)”




"Modern African American populations show this genetic diversity, inherited from African, European and Amerindian populations. Nine to ten million Africans were deported to the American colonies during the 16th-19th centuries. In the Guianese regions [1], between Brazil and Venezuela, approximately 400,000 slaves arrived to work in the plantations from 1604 to 1815 for mainly Dutch, but also English, French and Portuguese Jew settlers. Although many of these slaves were shipped by the Dutch West Indische Compagnie (WIC, 1620-1674), which controlled several African trading posts notably in the Bight of Benin, most of them were sold by independent slavers who traded along the Atlantic coast of Africa. Historical reports show widespread origins of the enslaved working force in Guiana, ranging over the Atlantic African coast from Senegal to Angola: 12% of the slaves came from Senegambia (present-day Senegal, Guinea-Bissau, Guinea), Sierra Leone and the Windward Coast (present-day Liberia and a part of the Ivory Coast), 56% from the Gold Coast (the remaining part of the Ivory Coast and Ghana) and the Bight of Benin (present-day Togo, Benin and a part of Nigeria), 5% from the Bight of Biafra (the remaining part of present-day Nigeria, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon), and 28% from South West Africa (present-day Angola) [2]. The slavers took advantage of this high cultural diversity, by breaking all ethnic and familial networks and by maintaining a sëx-ratio (2/3 men and 1/3 women) to prevent rebellions during the Middle Passage (the crossing of Atlantic Ocean) and in the plantations."

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This is a lie.

When he crowdfunds you donate and automatically get a copy of the dvd or project. It’s just paying upfront. That is not a scam or a con.
If that's the case then you are right, but I never did a crowdfund participation so I can't confirm nor deny. I wanted to donate to the Hidden History Museum, but there was a technical difficulty at time, so I left it for what it was. Shortly thereafter he started with the "tether talk", meanwhile Black people from foreign countries donate to the Hidden History Museum and other projects.

At times I donate to his live streams, and this is the gratitude we got? Perhaps now you see why I have issue with certain parts f what he has done?
 

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This is (or rather should be) a nothing burger. The man is just acknowledging his heritage, as he should. And he never shyt on any other other Black ethnic group either (even talked about connecting with his distant African ancestry). Anyone who has an issue with that, I think it says more about them :manny:
 

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Not even just this thread. I see little jabs and strays thrown all the time towards ados or fba on this forum. They pretend it's just at tarik. Completely acceptable and when we retaliate we bushed. Very white people like behavior. but like i said not surprised.
Very honkeylike
 

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It’s somewhat in the middle. He sells a product and people buy it. No problem.

The funny part is that he crowdfunds the projects people donate to, and he sells that same product back to the people who donated.

Usually when you donate to a crowdfund you also purchase the product. That the protocol.

Also, a few years back he spread the lie that Ethiopians hate Black Americans.

Here is a Black American woman in Ethiopia being welcomed.








The coon part is that he lies to a bunch of uneducated people, who take everything he says seriously.

Weird that you talk so bad about one alleged conman but repeatedly post fukking Mary Jane Byarm, a scammer so infamous she got a subreddit. :mjlol:

@ whoever said East Africans welcomed her cuz she look like them.... no she don't. :pachaha:



 

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If you read through the thread, you'll notice, for the most part, that ADOS/FBA aren't really starting anything. These non-ADOS/FBA people say slick/insulting things, then cry foul.

Even with Tariq Nasheed, I was taking other people at their words until I decided to listen to a few of his streams. He tends to only respond to insult/attacks, he doesn't (or didn't) start it.

I disagree with his lackluster political takes but a lot of these anti-ADOS/FBA people tend to instigate conflict then use gaslighting tactics to get people to believe they were the ones being bullied when they weren't.
thats where the majority of the so called "xenophobia" stems from
 

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thats where the majority of the so called "xenophobia" stems from
It's interesting when I bring this up even in majorly Black spaces. They will ridicule ADOS / FBA acting as though "we are all the same". I mentioned Ryan Coogler mentioned he was FBA and they said it was all "Black" (even though there are people from African countries that don't use "Black" as a racial construct).

Also I own African artifacts, have been to events like Carnival, Caribana, etc. which I find cool but I also have a lot books, cultural relics that are African American.
 

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Weird that you talk so bad about one alleged conman but repeatedly post fukking Mary Jane Byarm, a scammer so infamous she got a subreddit. :mjlol:

@ whoever said East Africans welcomed her cuz she look like them.... no she don't. :pachaha:




I know of the case (something to do with postcards), but I am not sure if I can it call it a scam. She was young and inexperienced in doing business that is how I see it. It was completely wrong managed.

And I didn't say East African I said Ethiopian, because that is where she is at now at the moment. It's her experience. When she was in Upper Egypt amongst Nubians they also thought she was native.

But what has all this to do with them welcoming her? Tariq Nasheed (Marcus Sanders) stated that Ethiopians hate Black Americans? At the time he used an "example" of some Ethiopian man who made some weird statement during the late 60s.


Overal I like her and like to watch her content. Will I send money, nope. Because she's monetised and has enough views and subs to make a nice living.



I recall this old conversation Sensei Aishytemasu had with Mizz Demanding. It's timestamped.

 
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I know of the case (something to do with postcards), but I am not sure if I can it call it a scam. She was young and inexperienced in doing business that is how I see it. It was completely wrong managed.

And I didn't say East African I said Ethiopian, because that is where she is at now at the moment. It's her experience. When she was in Upper Egypt amongst Nubians they also thought she was native.

But what has all this to do with them welcoming her? Tariq Nasheed (Marcus Sanders) stated that Ethiopians hate Black Americans? At the time he used an "example" of some Ethiopian man who made some weird statement during the late 60s.
:beli: We not doing this. She is a scammer. She plans trips, invites people along, and then steals their money.

So, for the record, you- the type of person to give a shyt about and aggressively wield Tariq's alleged govt name- have chosen as your champion Mary Jane Byarm, an exceedingly 'regular' black American girl from Jersey who claims green contacts as real and evermore exotic origins, scams bw out of their money, and then derides them when they demand redress? Is that right?

I mean no offense by this, but really, stay in Suriname business. This is not your lane. Clearly. I stumbled on a video about her time in Egypt. By the third video, my spidey senses were tingling. Don't tell me you actually follow her fr. :skip:

Timestamped

Disrespecting the women she scammed:



Faux exotic origins:



To the rest of your point, no, Mary Jane's experience on the continent don't mean shyt. The reason is, we don't know them people on the continent. We know the ones here, and from what I hear from my brethren who live near them, they are, yes, anti-FBA. How can you gainsay them from Amsterdam? On the word of a damn scammer?! It's ridiculous.
 

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He was not Non-FBA. He was asked plenty of times on here if he a Descendant of Freedman in America, FBA, Descendant of Black people who survived slavery in American, do you come from an immigrant background, etc. and he refused to answer the question

His wife was a White Arab Egyptian and he bragged about how his kids are beautiful because they are mixed. He also said that us "Anti-Mixing" Blacks are apparently going to have funny looking kids. There is a thread on him getting exposed and all of the lies he had on here and he left TheColi after that https://www.thecoli.com/threads/im-tired.869041/
 

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:beli: We not doing this. She is a scammer. She plans trips, invites people along, and then steals their money.

So, for the record, you- the type of person to give a shyt about and aggressively wield Tariq's alleged govt name- have chosen as your champion Mary Jane Byarm, an exceedingly 'regular' black American girl from Jersey who claims green contacts as real and evermore exotic origins, scams bw out of their money, and then derides them when they demand redress? Is that right?

I mean no offense by this, but really, stay in Suriname business. This is not your lane. Clearly. I stumbled on a video about her time in Egypt. By the third video, my spidey senses were tingling. Don't tell me you actually follow her fr. :skip:

Timestamped

Disrespecting the women she scammed:



Faux exotic origins:



To the rest of your point, no, Mary Jane's experience on the continent don't mean shyt. The reason is, we don't know them people on the continent. We know the ones here, and from what I hear from my brethren who live near them, they are, yes, anti-FBA. How can you gainsay them from Amsterdam? On the word of a damn scammer?! It's ridiculous.

Okay, I’ll stay out of your FBA-business, like so many other Blacks who are non-FBA are starting to do (recently).

And this supposed anti-FBA is not by me, but by a lot of Black Americans who challenge these false claims being spread about being native to America and how slavery didn’t happen (to the magnitude it has). All I did was point out this ridiculous rhetoric.

Keep bringing this type of sentiment to other Black people, what Tariq (Marcus) has been doing and see how awesome it will turn out. We all actually supported reparations for Black Americans, but he and Yvette Carmel, pus Tone Talks made it onto they these Black immigrants and Black foreigners are against it and what to take out reparations. There is where all this hate other Black people started.

When you were over in Netherlands the Black community treated you well. I’m aware of online FBA-sentiments, yet most are not. However, if more start to realize that they are actually being hated on and called tether etc for no apparent reason, they will take a different view and approach on this commonality they see with Black Americans. And as a result will “stay out of Black American business” (meaning the support they gave). This unfortunately has become a thing as well as a response to the delineation by many other Black communities, within recent years. So now a Black British historian, who only understands half of the story is making more confusing statements.

So yeah, I really don’t have to be on FBA’s business, it really doesn’t matter to me. It doesn’t change my life, influence my life negatively or positively. I live comfortably in a luxury apartment in the upper echelon of this country (city) I’m in.

I used to be worried with the things being done to Black Americans, by a white suprematist system. And I’ve spend many hour and years of my life fighting it in support of Black Americans as I felt a Black commonality. But I now figure that it was bunch of wasted time. And yeah, more Black immigrants in America feel like this recently. So I understand both sides.

 
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