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Okay, I’ll stay out of your FBA-business, like so many other Blacks who are non-FBA are starting to do (recently).

And this supposed anti-FBA is not by me, but by a lot of Black Americans who challenge these false claims being spread about being native to America and how slavery didn’t happen (to the magnitude it has). All I did was point out this ridiculous rhetoric.

Keep bringing this type of sentiment to other Black people, what Tariq (Marcus) has been doing and see how awesome it will turn out. We all actually supported reparations for Black Americans, but he and Yvette Carmel, pus Tone Talks made it onto they these Black immigrants and Black foreigners are against it and what to take out reparations. There is where all this hate other Black people started.

When you were over in Netherlands the Black community treated you well. I’m aware of online FBA-sentiments, yet most are not. However, if more start to realize that they are actually being hated on and called tether etc for no apparent reason, they will take a different view and approach on this commonality they see with Black Americans. And as a result will “stay out of Black American business” (meaning the support they gave). This unfortunately has become a thing as well as a response to the delineation by many other Black communities, within recent years. So now a Black British historian, who only understands half of the story is making more confusing statements.

So yeah, I really don’t have to be on FBA’s business, it really doesn’t matter to me. It doesn’t change my life, influence my life negatively or positively. I live comfortably in a luxury apartment in the upper echelon of this country (city) I’m in.

I used to be worried with the things being done to Black Americans, by a white suprematist system. And I’ve spend many hour and years of my life fighting it in support of Black Americans as I felt a Black commonality. But I now figure that it was bunch of wasted time. And yeah, more Black immigrants in America feel like this recently. So I understand both sides.
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What percentage of black Americans are descendants of slaves versus descendants of immigrants?

Originally the foundation of this country started with British settlers, and then we can presume that the Spaniards and the Irish came soon after but in the melting pot business model the idea is to import a new nationality each generation - one for cheaper labor, and two prevents the previous imports from establishing too much political power in the social hierarchy

FBA wooden legitimately have been here longer than most Caucasian nationalities, by significant margin

Example the influx of Italians happened around the early 1900s



Of course there were some individuals who came earlier but for the most part Mass migration between happens in cycles



Canada is looking to adopt this melting pot business model, some say they're looking to add an additional 100 million citizens from abroad -
 

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What percentage of black Americans are descendants of slaves versus descendants of immigrants?

Originally the foundation of this country started with British settlers, and then we can presume that the Spaniards and the Irish came soon after but in the melting pot business model the idea is to import a new nationality each generation - one for cheaper labor, and two prevents the previous imports from establishing too much political power in the social hierarchy

FBA wooden legitimately have been here longer than most Caucasian nationalities, by significant margin

Example the influx of Italians happened around the early 1900s



Of course there were some individuals who came earlier but for the most part Mass migration between happens in cycles



Canada is looking to adopt this melting pot business model, some say they're looking to add an additional 100 million citizens from abroad -
Based on available data, it's estimated that the vast majority of Black Americans are descendants of enslaved people brought to the Americas during the transatlantic slave trade. While precise figures are difficult to ascertain due to intermingling over centuries, here's a breakdown of current estimates:
* Descendants of Slavery: Approximately 50-55% of Black Americans are believed to be descendants of slaves with no recent immigrant background. An additional 10-15% are thought to have mixed ancestry, including both enslaved ancestors and more recent immigrant ancestors.
* Descendants of Immigrants: Around 25-30% of Black Americans are estimated to have no direct ties to American slavery, being either immigrants themselves or the descendants of immigrants who arrived in the U.S. more recently.
It's important to note that these are estimates, and individual ancestry can be complex and varied. Factors such as intermarriage between different groups contribute to this complexity.
General Information:
The history of Black people in America is deeply rooted in the institution of slavery, which brought millions of Africans to the country against their will from the 17th to the 19th centuries. The descendants of these enslaved people form a significant portion of the Black American population today.
However, immigration has also played an increasingly important role in the growth and diversity of the Black American community, particularly in recent decades. The Hart-Cellar Immigration Act of 1965, which changed the criteria for immigration to the United States, led to a significant increase in immigration from Africa and the Caribbean.
As of 2022, it was estimated that 10% of Black Americans were immigrants, and 20% were either immigrants or had at least one foreign-born parent. This indicates a growing presence of individuals within the Black American community who do not have direct ancestral ties to slavery in the United
States.


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Whole paragraph of bytching and crying
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Yeah, I’m “crying out loud” in my luxury apartment in the upper echelon.

Tariq Nasheed talks directly to you, FBA:

Tariq Nasheed: The Conscious Coffee Bean Employee.



Tariq Nasheed: Are You Prepared To Hold Power? (it's timestamped)

 
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What percentage of black Americans are descendants of slaves versus descendants of immigrants?

Originally the foundation of this country started with British settlers, and then we can presume that the Spaniards and the Irish came soon after but in the melting pot business model the idea is to import a new nationality each generation - one for cheaper labor, and two prevents the previous imports from establishing too much political power in the social hierarchy

FBA wooden legitimately have been here longer than most Caucasian nationalities, by significant margin

Example the influx of Italians happened around the early 1900s



Of course there were some individuals who came earlier but for the most part Mass migration between happens in cycles



Canada is looking to adopt this melting pot business model, some say they're looking to add an additional 100 million citizens from abroad -
I believe Canada has scrapped that immigration plan for the time being. The liberal party backers of that plan would've lost in a landslide over immigration if Trump hadn't saved them. Canada will probably try and revisit mass immigration but it's doomed for failure. Mainly due to the economy and not enough jobs and housing to go around.

The 'Century Initiative' is the talk of the campaign, but what is it?​


How Canada's immigration debate soured - and helped seal Trudeau's fate​


Immigration is making Canada's housing more expensive. The government was warned 2 years ago​

 
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Yeah, I’m “crying out loud” in my luxury apartment in the upper echelon.

Tariq Nasheed talks directly to you, FBA:

Tariq Nasheed: The Conscious Coffee Bean Employee.



Tariq Nasheed: Are You Prepared To Hold Power? (it's timestamped)


Didn’t read. Not watching. Let me know where to send my 10 cents
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Okay, I’ll stay out of your FBA-business, like so many other Blacks who are non-FBA are starting to do (recently).

And this supposed anti-FBA is not by me, but by a lot of Black Americans who challenge these false claims being spread about being native to America and how slavery didn’t happen (to the magnitude it has). All I did was point out this ridiculous rhetoric.

Keep bringing this type of sentiment to other Black people, what Tariq (Marcus) has been doing and see how awesome it will turn out. We all actually supported reparations for Black Americans, but he and Yvette Carmel, pus Tone Talks made it onto they these Black immigrants and Black foreigners are against it and what to take out reparations. There is where all this hate other Black people started.

When you were over in Netherlands the Black community treated you well. I’m aware of online FBA-sentiments, yet most are not. However, if more start to realize that they are actually being hated on and called tether etc for no apparent reason, they will take a different view and approach on this commonality they see with Black Americans. And as a result will “stay out of Black American business” (meaning the support they gave). This unfortunately has become a thing as well as a response to the delineation by many other Black communities, within recent years. So now a Black British historian, who only understands half of the story is making more confusing statements.

So yeah, I really don’t have to be on FBA’s business, it really doesn’t matter to me. It doesn’t change my life, influence my life negatively or positively. I live comfortably in a luxury apartment in the upper echelon of this country (city) I’m in.

I used to be worried with the things being done to Black Americans, by a white suprematist system. And I’ve spend many hour and years of my life fighting it in support of Black Americans as I felt a Black commonality. But I now figure that it was bunch of wasted time. And yeah, more Black immigrants in America feel like this recently. So I understand both sides.


This is the gaslighting we’ve been talking about

Others not minding their business has caused nothing but confusion.

We are all adults here. And too many are trying to paint themselves as victims. Non fbas are getting checked at the door now. Honestly something we should have been doing
 

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Question for the folks here. What's the difference from African American, FBA, and ADOS?

They essentially all mean the same thing: "Americans who descend from USA's, African slaves"
We've been using African American as group name since the 80s I think.

Actually, it's been used since the 1700s!











What's wrong with that name? It's the same shyt no?

Things got fuzzy after the Civil Right Act because of the bigger wave of black immigrants that weren't around when Aframs gave themselves the term "African American"

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the afroamerican identity vs outsiders claiming the term was a talking point by Afroamericans long before ADOS was a thing


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They essentially all mean the same thing: "Americans who descend from USA's, African slaves"


Actually, it's been used since the 1700s!













Things got fuzzy after the Civil Right Act because of the bigger wave of black immigrants that weren't around when Aframs gave themselves the term "African American"

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the afroamerican identity vs outsiders claiming the term was a talking point by Afroamericans long before ADOS was a thing


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What has caused the decline of FBA / ADOS is the large amount of abortions. Of course there can be several reasons for this that could be factored in. But this is about the absolute numbers.

“Black women have the highest abortion ratio in the country, with 474 abortions per 1,000 live births. Percentages at these levels illustrate that more than 19 million black babies have been aborted since 1973.”


Another factor for the rise of non-FBA Blacks will be the inclusion of Afro-Latinos.

And though most Afro-Latinos identify as Hispanic or Latino, not all do so, according to new Pew Research Center estimates based on a survey of U.S. adults conducted from November 2019 to June 2020.”.

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"In Latin America’s colonial period, about 15 times as manyAfrican slaves were taken to Spanish and Portuguese colonies than to the U.S. About 130 million people of African descent live in Latin America, and they make up roughly a quarter of the region’s total population, according to recent estimates from the Project on Ethnicity and Race in Latin America (PERLA) at Princeton University."



“For the first time, the decennial census in 2020 prompted all respondents to provide detailed race and ethnicity responses. We also made improvements to question design, coding and processing, following extensive research and feedback from stakeholders and subject matter experts on detailed race and ethnicity reporting.

One of the improvements was using a combined Hispanic Origin and Race Code List for coding data from the ethnicity and race questions. By combining the code lists, we expanded the number of groups that could be coded in each question. For example, if someone reported their detailed Hispanic origin response in the race question, we were easily able to code it because all detailed Hispanic origin groups are included in the newly combined code list.

Our improvements include adding distinct codes for the specific responses of Afro-Latino and of Garifuna, also known as Garinagu, allowing for the tabulation of the number of people who provided these specific terms in response to the ethnicity question. With the release of the 2020 Census Detailed Demographic and Housing Characteristics File A (Detailed DHC-A), those counts are now available.

The U.S. Census Bureau recognizes that the Afro-Latino population is not limited to people who responded by providing the specific terms of Afro-Latino or Garifuna within their responses to the ethnicity question. The primary way of deriving counts for the Afro-Latino population is by tabulating those who identified as Hispanic or Latino in the ethnicity question and identified as Black or African American in the race question. Respondents could identify as Hispanic or Latino and Black or African American in many ways – by checking multiple boxes and/or writing in specific identities. In this paper, we present three different ways of tabulating Afro-Latino responses.

Again, the Census Bureau used stakeholder feedback to determine how to code Afro-Latino and Garifuna responses, and we plan to continue engaging stakeholders as we prepare for the 2030 Census.”


Meanwhile,

"In 2022, there were 63.7 million Hispanics living in the United States. The U.S. Hispanic population has diverse origins in Latin America and Spain."

 
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This is the gaslighting we’ve been talking about

Others not minding their business has caused nothing but confusion.

We are all adults here. And too many are trying to paint themselves as victims. Non fbas are getting checked at the door now. Honestly something we should have been doing
You are a dumb box of rocks. You have delineated not me, you call anyone willy nilly a tether without knowing them.

Check me in real life "at your imaginary door", self proclaim indigenous American Indian. I don't take c00n-bs like this lightly, you have no idea you brainless idiot. lol

 
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Didn’t read. Not watching. Let me know where to send my 10 cents
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That what I expected and suspected from you. But it's very disappointing for a devoted worshipper such as yourself.

The irony is that the first time I heard of Tariq Nasheed", was through a North Sudanic - Upper Egyptian man on social media who told me to go watch a Hidden History film. That was around 2014.

And you can stuff that 10 cents ...


 
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That what I expected and suspected from you. But it's very disappointing for a devoted worshipper such as yourself.

The irony is that the first time I heard of Tariq Nasheed", was through a North Sudanic - Upper Egyptian man on social media who told me to go watch a Hidden History film. That was around 2014.

And you can stuff that 10 cents ...



Don’t care. Didn’t read.
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You are a dumb box of rocks. You have delineated not me, you call anyone willy nilly a tether without knowing them.

Check me in real life "at your imaginary door", self proclaim indigenous American Indian. I don't take c00n-bs like this lightly, you have no idea you brainless idiot. lol


How did I miss this post

You serious with this shyt. You really gon post that nikka of all people :russ:
 
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