“I am A Foundational Black American” - Ryan Coogler

[Bunchy Carter]

That's an interesting channel, I came across this video called "Can Nigeria overcome its deep-rooted tribalism?" The Africans are coming over to America with this deeply-rooted tribalism and weaponizing their tribalism against FBAs, when we have been trying to be friends with Africans, and show respect to the immigrant Africans. After a long time, FBAs are finally saying "this is enough, where going to focus on us FBAs," here come the Africans talking about how we are being divisive, and we are all the same.

 

[Sir Jebbi]

 

[Korang]

Dont got no problem with any ethnicity/culture differentiating themselves, because were all different no matter how similar we may seem.

My issue is with the term "foundational". The U.S will probably never accept black folks, so claiming to be the "foundation" of the U.S inception comes across looking for acceptance from a country that will never give it.

But im not suprised. More and more black folks are into assimilating so I would assume they wouldn't mind the never ending fight of getting a seat at the table.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Dont got no problem with any ethnicity/culture differentiating themselves, because were all different no matter how similar we may seem.

My issue is with the term "foundational". The U.S will probably never accept black folks, so claiming to be the "foundation" of the U.S inception comes across looking for acceptance from a country that will never give it.

But im not suprised. More and more black folks are into assimilating so I would assume they wouldn't mind the never ending fight of getting a seat at the table.

It's none of your business either way.

 

[Tair]

Nigeria has 200 million people with 300 different tribes.

The whole "unity" idea is disingenuous. That unity is disingenuous because if unity was something they believed in, we'd see it in Nigeria today.

The only reason they focus on ADOS/FBA unity is because there are tangible benefits with being united with ADOS/FBA.

 

[JT-Money]

That's an interesting channel, I came across this video called "Can Nigeria overcome its deep-rooted tribalism?" The Africans are coming over to America with this deeply-rooted tribalism and weaponizing their tribalism against FBAs, when we have been trying to be friends with Africans, and show respect to the immigrant Africans. After a long time, FBAs are finally saying "this is enough, where going to focus on us FBAs," here come the Africans talking about how we are being divisive, and we are all the same.

You see it all the time in Corporate America. They give FBA's the stink face yet light up when around cacs.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Dont got no problem with any ethnicity/culture differentiating themselves, because were all different no matter how similar we may seem.

My issue is with the term "foundational". The U.S will probably never accept black folks, so claiming to be the "foundation" of the U.S inception comes across looking for acceptance from a country that will never give it.

But im not suprised. More and more black folks are into assimilating so I would assume they wouldn't mind the never ending fight of getting a seat at the table.

I think this is a good point, which is why I prefer terms like "Generational Black American" or "Generational African-American" instead. It centers our specific lineage and history, and grounds it in historical justice and material redress. Plus it's not tied to a con man.

 

[JT-Money]

The year of gettin' ya pockets fleeced.

You a damn fool if you paying to go see a slave site where some of our ancestors were tortured before being shipped off like cattle.

Cats still getting disrespected today and can't even see it.

We need to circulate money in our community before spending it elsewhere.

I didn't even think about how all the Pan Africanist we're dressed compared to the Ghanians.

 

[Tair]

I think this is a good point, which is why I prefer terms like "Generational Black American" or "Generational African-American" instead. It centers our specific lineage and history, and grounds it in historical justice and material redress. Plus it's not tied to a con man.

"Generational..." is a vague term and it doesn't center ADOS/FBA. A person who is 3 generations deep could be classified as "generational".

"Foundational" makes sense because it is based on being here before America as we know it existed. "ADOS" makes sense because it is based on the legacy of slavery practiced on this land. "Freedman" makes sense because it is based on the slaves becoming free and defining themselves as Freedmen.

 

[DaRealness]

A few years ago, this thread would have been long bushed.

Honestly some folk in here just wanted an excuse to get shyt off their chest. The topic could have been about Jupiter's moons and somehow the usual suspects would have spun it into a diaspora war.

FTR I don't know anybody who would be "mad" or have a problem with Ryan Coogler acknowledging his Black American roots. I know that's what some folks want, but it's a captain obvious statement he made. That's where he's from. That's where his forefathers are from. Duh.

The man has also acknowledged his African roots going much further back, has made Black Panther which is (although fantasy) very heavily African focused, has made a Black American CLASSIC in Sinners, has a couple or more non-FBA actors in the movie, has a scene where it shows African music as well as FBA music from the old to the modern etc...so clearly he's not anti other black people. That is VERY obvious. So there's not even a problem here.

I'm UK based and just got back from the cinema filled with teth...excuse me, black people even on a Sunday night who all clearly enjoyed it....so clearly there's no problem here except trolls flapping their gums online.

Some folk just can't live without chaos SMH.

 

[Bunchy Carter]

"Generational..." is a vague term and it doesn't center ADOS/FBA. A person who is 3 generations deep could be classified as "generational".

"Foundational" makes sense because it is based on being here before America as we know it existed. "ADOS" makes sense because it is based on the legacy of slavery practiced on this land. "Freedman" makes sense because it is based on the slaves becoming free and defining themselves as Freedmen.

Generational Black American is stupid. Your grandparents could have immigrated to the USA in 1970's, so your a 2nd Generational Black American.

Foundational Black American makes more sense, because our family was here before the creation of the United States of America and is the Foundation to the creation of the United States of America, which is true. If it was not for FBAs being enslaved, there would not be a United States of America.

Furthermore, there were Black people here on this land before the start of slavery, so that is why Foundational Black American makes more logical sense. Not Generational Black American.

Generational Black American sounds like something the FBI would make up. @Pull Up the Roots sounding looking like William O'Neal and both of them are from the Midwest

 

[Ish Gibor]

Nigeria has 200 million people with 300 different tribes.

The whole "unity" idea is disingenuous. That unity is disingenuous because if unity was something they believed in, we'd see it in Nigeria today.

The only reason they focus on ADOS/FBA unity is because there are tangible benefits with being united with ADOS/FBA.

The Biodiversity of Africa ~ Dr. Shomarka Keita ~ 2012 Seminar (a scientific view).

 

[Ish Gibor]

Generational Black American is stupid. Your grandparents could have immigrated to the USA in 1970's, so your a 2nd Generational Black American.

Foundational Black American makes more sense, because our family was here before the creation of the United States of America and is the Foundation to the creation of the United States of America, which is true. If it was not for FBAs being enslaved, there would not be a United States of America.

The first official Black immigrants came during the reconstruction era. It makes sense to say that FBA was in North America before the reconstruction era.

Furthermore, there were Black people here on this land before the start of slavery, so that is why Foundational Black American makes more logical sense. Not Generational Black American.

Generational Black American sounds like something the FBI would make up. @Pull Up the Roots sounding looking like William O'Neal and both of them are from the Midwest

Where is this coming for, this evidence?

"Enslaved Africans came from or through major coastal regions that had been labeled by Europeans as the Grain Coast (consisting of Senegal, Gambia, Guinea, Sierra Leone and parts of Liberia), Windward Coast (Ivory Coast and Liberia), Gold Coast (Ghana west of the Volta River), Bight of Benin (between the Volta and Benin Rivers), Bight of Biafra (east of the Benin River to Gabon), Central Africa (Gabon, Congo, and Angola), and the southern coast of Africa (from the cape of Good Hope to Cape Delgado, including the island of Madagascar)."

Y chromosome lineages in men of west African descent - PubMed

The early African experience in the Americas is marked by the transatlantic slave trade from ∼1619 to 1850 and the rise of the plantation system. The origins of enslaved Africans were largely dependent on European preferences as well as the availability of potential laborers within Africa. Rice...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

“Thirteen of the 18 haplogroups previously observed in African populations were observed in the African American populations: L1a, L1b, L1c, L2a, L2b, L2c, L3b, L3d, L3, L3, L3, L3, and L3f”

Mitochondrial DNA diversity in the African American population - PMC

Genetic polymorphism along mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) defines population-specific signatures called mtDNA haplogroups. Estimation of mtDNA haplogroup distribution may be prone to errors, notably if the study sample is not drawn from a multicenter ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"The genetics of African North Americans are complex amalgamations of various West and Central African peoples with modest gene flow from specific European and Amerindian peoples. A comprehensive understanding of African North American biohistory is a prerequisite for accurate interpretations of the ancestral genetics of this population. Too often, genetic interpretations falter with ahistorical reconstructions. The recently reported overrepresentation of Nigerian lineages in African North Americans reflects pronounced limitations in the African genomic database, the artificiality of the colonial maps of Africa, the contributions of multiple African empires and kingdoms into the transatlantic trade in enslaved Africans, and the overrepresentation of Yoruba peoples in the existing limited representation of West Africans in public genomic databases. This Matters Arising paper is in response to Micheletti et al. (2020), published in The American Journal of Human Genetics. See also the response by Micheletti et al. (2020), published in this issue."

So many Nigerians: why is Nigeria overrepresented as the ancestral genetic homeland of Legacy African North Americans? - PMC

The genetics of African North Americans are complex amalgamations of various West and Central African peoples with modest gene flow from specific European and Amerindian peoples. A comprehensive understanding of African North American biohistory is ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

A continuum of admixture in the Western Hemisphere revealed by the African Diaspora genome - Nature Communications

The Consortium on Asthma among African-ancestry Populations in the Americas (CAAPA) aims to better understand population genetics of the African diaspora. Here, it uses deeply sequenced whole-genomes to describe the impact of admixture and potential disease burden of deleterious variants.

www.nature.com

"Earlier studies showed that the prevalence of maxillary midline diastema was greater in African populations than among Caucasians or Asian [21]. Another research reported that a maxillary midline diastema (MMD) occurrence among African Americans is more".

Retrospective Evaluation of the Prevalence of Diastema among an Adult Population

Discover the prevalence and location of diastema among orthodontic patients at UNLV School of Dental Medicine. Explore the impact of ethnicity and arch on diastema cases.

www.scirp.org

"According to the study, having mainly African genetic ancestry can reduce a person's chances of finding a donor by up to 60%, and having African copies of HLA genes, which must be compatible with the donor's to make a transplant possible, can reduce them by 75%."
[..]
According to Meyer, the team cannot yet answer the question regarding the degree to which admixture and the percentage of African ancestry hinder a match. "These two things are a little different. What we know is that on average people with African HLA genes tend to have more difficulty than people with European ancestry," he said. "It remains to be seen if there are combinations of European and African chromosomes that can also reduce the probability of a match.”

Study explains why people of African descent are less likely to find bone marrow donors

A paper by a multidisciplinary team of scientists affiliated with various Brazilian institutions, including the University of São Paulo (USP) and the National Cancer Institute (INCA), shows that people of African descent are less likely to find a donor in the National Register of Voluntary Bone...

www.news-medical.net

"The study found that white blood cell counts may be low due to a rs2814778-CC variant in the promoter of the atypical chemokine receptor 1-coding gene ACKR1. While this variant is relatively uncommon in individuals of European ancestry, it appears to be found in more than 60 percent of African Americans and is found at especially high frequency in some populations from sub-Saharan Africa.”

Genotyping May Help Avoid Unnecessary Bone Marrow Biopsies in African Americans

A significant subset of African Americans may be genetically predisposed to low white blood cell counts, suggesting this feature alone may not warrant bone marrow biopsies.

www.genomeweb.com

 

[Knicksman20]

The Biodiversity of Africa ~ Dr. Shomarka Keita ~ 2012 Seminar (a scientific view).

SOY Keita's the truth

 

[Ish Gibor]

SOY Keita's the truth

Yes, actual science not some online pseudo babble.