I cant see this era of oversaturated digital music being preserved like the music in physical format

Peabo Bryson

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The problem with CDs is eventually they do fail. It's not like a record...

However people were saying the cds would go back in 7-10 years but I have cds I purchased in the 90s that are perfectly fine :yeshrug:
Yup, this only holds true for CD-R media though. A real, glass master manufactured disc that a record company puts out will last forever as long as there's a laser in existence to read it. The disc is actually a piece of metal film. A CD-R is made of a ink film which deteriorates over time and yes, it will fail eventually. There are special CD drives you can buy out there that can read a failing CD-R (as long as there's no holes in the disc/film), it has a more concentrated laser that can read the 1's and 0's on the thin deteriorating film. They're real expensive though and used for data restoration or recovery. I do have CD-Rs I burned in 1998 that still work fine to this day. They are the old Verbatim ones that had that super dark blue color on the bottom.
 

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Yup, this only holds true for CD-R media though. A real, glass master manufactured disc that a record company puts out will last forever as long as there's a laser in existence to read it. The disc is actually a piece of metal film. A CD-R is made of a ink film which deteriorates over time and yes, it will fail eventually. There are special CD drives you can buy out there that can read a failing CD-R (as long as there's no holes in the disc/film), it has a more concentrated laser that can read the 1's and 0's on the thin deteriorating film. They're real expensive though and used for data restoration or recovery. I do have CD-Rs I burned in 1998 that still work fine to this day. They are the old Verbatim ones that had that super dark blue color on the bottom.

:salute: for the knowledge...

And the ones I have that still work are those same Verbatim discs. The ones where they had different color bottoms to try to be different, failed like a muhfukka.
 

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it's easier to preserve digital

been saving alot of rare music from cd's and usb drives for a few years already,

Sharing music while also archiving it online actually makes it last longer.
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How long do u think your USB's will have a shelf life??

10 years? 20 years?

I have a USB that just hit the 4 year mark and now its acting up.....a bunch of music I have on it is there but I cant extract it nor play it. Its just sitting there useless. I remember prior to USBs u had discs and they would crash outta nowhere if u kept them in a drawer to long. Do any of u have USB's or Externat hard drives that are over 10 years old?

The best thing I can see is the same action toward vinyl colletcors who have strage units with temperature control. The technology is so unreliable when it comes to long term that I wouldnt trust a usb to last 10 years.
 

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How long do u think your USB's will have a shelf life??

10 years? 20 years?

I have a USB that just hit the 4 year mark and now its acting up.....a bunch of music I have on it is there but I cant extract it nor play it. Its just sitting there useless. I remember prior to USBs u had discs and they would crash outta nowhere if u kept them in a drawer to long. Do any of u have USB's or Externat hard drives that are over 10 years old?

The best thing I can see is the same action toward vinyl colletcors who have strage units with temperature control. The technology is so unreliable when it comes to long term that I wouldnt trust a usb to last 10 years.

funny you say that cause i still got usbs from 4 years ago that's still works to this day, i'm guessing it's the way you handle them :yeshrug:
 

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How long do u think your USB's will have a shelf life??

10 years? 20 years?

I have a USB that just hit the 4 year mark and now its acting up.....a bunch of music I have on it is there but I cant extract it nor play it. Its just sitting there useless. I remember prior to USBs u had discs and they would crash outta nowhere if u kept them in a drawer to long. Do any of u have USB's or Externat hard drives that are over 10 years old?

The best thing I can see is the same action toward vinyl colletcors who have strage units with temperature control. The technology is so unreliable when it comes to long term that I wouldnt trust a usb to last 10 years.

It's hard to say. I have a hard drive that is still kicking after 15 years believe it or not. I've also had drives die in 6 months. The solid state drives, since they have no moving parts, shouldn't fail like the older ones do. The thing is, it's pretty simple to copy the music multiple times. Plus you have it stored online and so do others. Once it's stored digitally it's easy to send across the world and thus preserving it a lot longer.

Storing vinyl can be a pain in the ass and I've lost plenty of vinyl due to warping from heat, water damage, etc. My dream was always to have a giant house with a room that was AC controlled just built for my turntables/vinyl/music....however, most of us don't have that luxury. It's in our garage.
 

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that's what I'm saying.

its like the feeling you get when some of your favorite youtube videos get removed, except youtube is free.

of when you had some exclusive chit on your mp3/mp4/ipod/etc and then that chit dies and your ass outta luck.

but hey, music is disposable to most of the people that don't buy physical retail anyway.


This happened with Jay pulling the Blueprint series and RD off of Apple and Spotify

I don't think it affected anyones streaming habits


those are albums that are easy to purchase, if you didn't already have a copy 15-20 years ago.
 

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I don't know breh. I have hard drives and CDs with mp3s of shyt like Nas' dogs barking Stillmatic early leak with music perfectly preserved. I have a physical record collection and everything in between (Tapes, cds)but sometimes you lose those or they warp, they get misplaced. Remember when people would break into cars and steal cd cases?

YouTube has saved old videos and interviews for us. Better than we ever did in the 2000s for the 90s. If you like them you can rip them pretty easily, even if YouTube went down in a month. The thing is they make so much revenue on YouTube it really is not going anywhere for the next 10 years.
can you upload the rest of the barking dogs on stillmatic? i know i have them somewhere but could only find the one mic dog barking one atm
 
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