Take the fukking job 
I knew the corporate game was rigged but woooow
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This is what you said. It's wrong. Nothing else to talk about.
Take the money and figure out the rest later. If it’s not something you’re feeling, at least you have a higher salary and title to go elsewhere.
humminbird
Veteran
oh nooooo they want to give you higher pay and possibly less responsibility while they hold your hand through the job's task
the agony
what is this world coming to?
the agony
what is this world coming to?
MajesticLion
Veteran
"just think about it" = get ready
The real life Kramer
They trying to fire you broski and want to use you underperforming as the reason why.Bit of back story, there is a new role that's been created in my division and in the months leading up to it, my boss and his boss have been sounding me out for it in our catch-up meetings. My message has been pretty consistent in that I don't think I have the experience or skills to do that job and they've always told me to just "think about it"
Fast forward a few weeks, the post gets advertised publicly for people to apply.
So, I miss the deadline for applying and my manager's boss sets up a 1hr "catch-up" meeting with me. I already know we were gonna be discussing this new role and that's exactly what happened.
I've basically been told, in loosely uncertain terms, that this job is mine even though I've told them I don't think I deserve it, don't feel ready for it and missed the application deadline. This is basically some "offer you can't refuse" type shyt
At the risk of "counting my eggs before they hatch" the only way I see myself not getting it is if I show up to the interview drunk and start swearing at people because I was told I would be given "advice" before the interview too
I've also got a 1-on-1 meeting with the Head of the division later this week. You know, the guy who signs off on all appointments/promotions
They talk all this shyt about "fair" selection processes and procedures which I've always known was BS but now I'm seeing it first hand and becoming part of this bs system too.
Sure, as far as problems go, this is not a bad one to have but this shyt stinks to me. There's people applying for this role not knowing that a decision has already been made and it feels wrong. fukk MAN, what a farce!
TLDR: It's been strongly hinted to me that I'll be getting a promotion I don't feel ready for and that I don't think I deserve.
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feelosofer
#ninergang
If you're being offered a position you deserve it, take it and build from there.
first off, you need to know what you are doing lol idk WTF this people in here talking about, yes white privilege exists as well as cronyism and nepotism, but you STILL need to know what you are doing, not necessarily a master but how communicate with others on how to solve your problem, as well as possibly studying or practicing outside of work. That being said I would take the position, if it pays more then yes, if after I say 6 months you don't like it, just step down, people do this all the time.
Facts lowkey op sound like a bytch unless the role is some dead-end shyt
The real life Kramer
Totally
zayk35
Superstar
We pretty much only advance internally at my job. They'll post the position somewhere but in the 11 yrs I've been with the company we all just move to different departments and back for advancement
duckbutta
eienaar van mans
Bit of back story, there is a new role that's been created in my division and in the months leading up to it, my boss and his boss have been sounding me out for it in our catch-up meetings. My message has been pretty consistent in that I don't think I have the experience or skills to do that job and they've always told me to just "think about it"
Fast forward a few weeks, the post gets advertised publicly for people to apply.
So, I miss the deadline for applying and my manager's boss sets up a 1hr "catch-up" meeting with me. I already know we were gonna be discussing this new role and that's exactly what happened.
I've basically been told, in loosely uncertain terms, that this job is mine even though I've told them I don't think I deserve it, don't feel ready for it and missed the application deadline. This is basically some "offer you can't refuse" type shyt
At the risk of "counting my eggs before they hatch" the only way I see myself not getting it is if I show up to the interview drunk and start swearing at people because I was told I would be given "advice" before the interview too
I've also got a 1-on-1 meeting with the Head of the division later this week. You know, the guy who signs off on all appointments/promotions
They talk all this shyt about "fair" selection processes and procedures which I've always known was BS but now I'm seeing it first hand and becoming part of this bs system too.
Sure, as far as problems go, this is not a bad one to have but this shyt stinks to me. There's people applying for this role not knowing that a decision has already been made and it feels wrong. fukk MAN, what a farce!
TLDR: It's been strongly hinted to me that I'll be getting a promotion I don't feel ready for and that I don't think I deserve.
So you getting moved into this job for one of two reasons.
1. Somebody somewhere wants to get rid of you. They want you in this position that you have stated you don't want because they want you to fail so next time they have layoffs, guess who's name is coming up for poor performance ? As an executive manager this the the number one way I see other managers get rid of people they don't want. They put them in a job they know they don't have the skillset or desire to do and then as soon as they start slacking they do everything they can to fire them, and if they can't, as soon as a layoff happens and they got to give up people that person is the first name out of their mouth. The only reason why I have never done it personally is because the person I would have done it to ended up quitting before I could do it.
2. It's the opposite. You have a skillset and someone feels the best place for you to use that skillset is in this job you don't want. This is also not good because when this starts happening to a person at work, it never stops happening. If you take this job that you told them you didn't want then somewhere down the line you are going to get put into another job you don't want.
Now there is a way out of you got the balls for it. Most people don't though. If you still really want to not take the job you send your manager an email asking the following questions.
1. Why they think you are a good fit.
2. In writing you expressing how you do not want the job.
3. If there are skills or certifications you need for the job, outline how you don't have them and what is management doing to get you trained and/or certified and who is paying for such training and certification
4. What is happening to your old job? Are you expected to work both your old position and new position? If so for how long? Are you expected to train somebody in your old position? If so for how long? Is someone training you in your new position? If so for how long?
You put this in writing and send it to your manager to force your manager to put their responses in writing so later on down the line there is no he said she said shyt. Whatever they put in writing after that you go to HR and you show them how you expressed you did not want the position but management in writing is trying to make you take it. If you work at even an average company HR will step in to stop it, but then you probably going to make enemies in management and you should already know how that goes for you down the road...
If they flat out don't respond and put anything in writing...you need to find another job cause at that point they are most certainly moving you to try and get rid of you, regardless of them giving you a promotion...paying you more money means nothing if you only going to be there X amount of time before they lay you off for poor performance or whatever...
Best advice in the thread.
I was thinking the first thing you mentioned as a possibility. If his boss never gave him a reason to think he is anything but awesome until recently as it relates to get him to change jobs, he may need to look out for the first scenario you mentioned.