I think imma enlist in the. Good idea?

[...and some waffle fries]

…yup and don’t don’t forget to mention the Community College of the Air Force scam shyt they got going on. The Recruiter is like “oh you can go to the CCAF to finish your degree” and then you get there and they only got classes that help with Air Force jobs and some of the units don’t even transfer out to traditional colleges. Most of the time I had 18 hour days…I had no shot at getting a degree, because the needs of the Air Force came before any shyt I had going one.

Get your CCAF degree!

The politics is draining and he dont realize that. Dont let him get a shytty supervisor that want to see him lose. Usually cacs. Oh boy! He gon be like fukk school im just trying to make it to separation with a honorable discharge. All that overchieving stuff aint well received by everybody.

 

[Leao2005]

Y'all ain't reading the op. I specifically said I had an Associates Degree in the OP, why would I choose any job when I can do something I'm familiar with? I already know about nikkas who do 4 and 6 years and end up working at McDonald's or Walmart because they didn't choose something that transfer to the civilian world. That's the first thing people tell you, find something that transfers to the civilian world, I been knew about that. So I'm not about to join the military and be some shyt like a grunt coming out with no experience. BUT even if I did, I still have an Associates degree to fall back on.

If there's no openings then I'll just go to University.

nikka just finish out Uni then. Unless the tuition is super hard

 

[Leao2005]

Give your life for white folks that hate your guts bruhs!

Y’all really overstated this notion.

 

[Leao2005]

You showed why on this very thread…exhibit A:



Here’s the mistake people like you make and I’m not gonna keep going back and forth with you cuz I already was in Air Force, already make six figures, I’m already where you wanna be and you arguing. But the mistake people like you make, is you go in “open” and then when you get to boot camp and talk to a job counselor they give you a list of jobs to choose from and guess what….NONE OF THE shyt YOU WANT IS THERE. So now they asking you to pick a job and your dream bases but you have no internet connection to research those jobs, nobody to ask about quality of life on the job because everyone around you is a trainee, and you got one week to decide your top 8 but it’s a highly stressful week with minimal downtime. Now there could be positive outcomes in the situation but I personally don’t like leaving things to chance in a system like military where you can’t technically quit

I remember a guy hated his job so much, he took off and went home. When his plane landed, it was held at the gate…no one could exit…suddenly two Air Force personnel came onboard to arrest him. I watched him get punished for 8 months with him getting stripes taken and given and taken back…and he had to pay for it on all ABUs. Finally they kicked him out.

Military ain’t a game…your employer owns you…they tell you where to be and when and you have to do it. If they say you can’t have a motorcycle then you can’t have one. They give you your food, your clothing, your shelter, and for all that you’re their bytch. If you gonna be there bytch, it’s better to be their bytch doing something that enriches you…be their computer bytch or construction bytch.

If you don’t get your job before you leave MEPS, you lost

 

[Son Goku]

I get that you have your ultimate goal formatted but you kinda dismissing valuable information that guys are trying to give you.

Plus it appears like you have the attitude that you have it all figured out. When in fact you are not accounting for ALOT things within those 4 yrs that youll encounter because you DONT know.

For instance you have a associates degree which means you have minimum of 60 hours. What is your exact plan and where are going to find the time to complete the other 60?

Military Obligations come first! When you complete BMT and Tech School you have things called CDCs. These are mandatory and have to be completed before school.

You are going to be working 8 hrs a day not including if your squadron does morning PT. You really only gon have time to take 3 credit hours and thats after work. And thats assuming your job doesnt have swing or mid shifts.

Anybody thats been Active Duty knows that your base and leadership determines ALOT of how you experience the military. 1 base you want to get out ASAP another base you wanna stay in til they kick you out.

Point is your day to day as a 1st term airman is not going to be a fluid as you think. Its alot of stuff I havent touched like EPRs which can make or break you even if you plan to get out in 4 because thats how you are judged as a airman.

Just saying

You not wrong but it really does depend on the missio /base / job.

The A1Cs that go up for BTZ in my hospicle do 12-15 crs a semester, work, volunteer, go to PT, and have hobbies and/or kids.

More likely to be working like 36 hours/5 days a week with plenty of down time at work to do school.

Sheeit, if you're not taking classes they gonna be looking at you on some shyt. Folks completed whole ass master's degrees and everything.

But at another Sq they might not be able to do that. Some folks work 12s-14s, weekends or Panamas, get no OT, still have to find time for fitness and appointments, etc.

 

[Leao2005]

Mostly right but the bolded is wrong.

If he commissions at 32/33, they'll still be 20-something-year-olds "bossing" him around. Again, if this is for some reason an issue the AF is not for him.

It is much easier for enlisted folks to switch jobs than it is for officers to change AFSCs. Between FTA retraining, NCORP, force shaping, DSDs, there are way more options enlisted wise, and thus actually more mobility (at least laterally).

Also, the officers deploy in CE just like the enlisted folks. If the thought of having to go downrange is a scary to the OP, the AF is not for him. The AF doesn't operate outside of the wire except for specific AFSCs (usually) when deployed, but their is still some inherent danger being in the military, whether officer or enlisted.

You schooling them. I had a hour long call with my cousin about the AF two weeks.

 

[Son Goku]

Y’all really overstated this notion.

Right?

Like the same cacs ain't clipping civilian brehs on a weekly basis CONUS.

 

[Deuterion]

Get your CCAF degree!

The politics is draining and he dont realize that. Dont let him get a shytty supervisor that want to see him lose. Usually cacs. Oh boy! He gon be like fukk school im just trying to make it to separation with a honorable discharge. All that overchieving stuff aint well received by everybody.

Yes man! A bad boss on the military is like a bad corporate boss on steroids. I’ve yelled at the top of my lungs at bosses in corporate world when they got out of line, can’t do that shyt in the military…the hole you dig will just get bigger and bigger. They have so many ways to screw your over…like you said…a nikka go from wanting to make it to Brigadier General in 20 to just trying to get an honorable in 4.

 

[WaveWhisperer]

You showed why on this very thread…exhibit A:



Here’s the mistake people like you make and I’m not gonna keep going back and forth with you cuz I already was in Air Force, already make six figures, I’m already where you wanna be and you arguing. But the mistake people like you make, is you go in “open” and then when you get to boot camp and talk to a job counselor they give you a list of jobs to choose from and guess what….NONE OF THE shyt YOU WANT IS THERE. So now they asking you to pick a job and your dream bases but you have no internet connection to research those jobs, nobody to ask about quality of life on the job because everyone around you is a trainee, and you got one week to decide your top 8 but it’s a highly stressful week with minimal downtime. Now there could be positive outcomes in the situation but I personally don’t like leaving things to chance in a system like military where you can’t technically quit

I remember a guy hated his job so much, he took off and went home. When his plane landed, it was held at the gate…no one could exit…suddenly two Air Force personnel came onboard to arrest him. I watched him get punished for 8 months with him getting stripes taken and given and taken back…and he had to pay for it on all ABUs. Finally they kicked him out.

Military ain’t a game…your employer owns you…they tell you where to be and when and you have to do it. If they say you can’t have a motorcycle then you can’t have one. They give you your food, your clothing, your shelter, and for all that you’re their bytch. If you gonna be there bytch, it’s better to be their bytch doing something that enriches you…be their computer bytch or construction bytc.

and thats why when i signed up i bugged the shyt out of every avenue i had as far as picking what job i wanted to do, you already giving up four years of your like to the military and if you have a CHANCE to choose what you want to do while you in you better fukkin take and interrogate everybody whos in about what job is what .


The better you study for the asvab the more choice you will have ,dont fukk around brehs if you gonna play this game play it smart

 

[Leao2005]

Get your CCAF degree!

The politics is draining and he dont realize that. Dont let him get a shytty supervisor that want to see him lose. Usually cacs. Oh boy! He gon be like fukk school im just trying to make it to separation with a honorable discharge. All that overchieving stuff aint well received by everybody.

 

[TheAnointedOne]

They're going to stick a finger up your ass.

 

[Son Goku]

They're going to stick a finger up your ass.

@CouldntBeMeTho

I went to the MEPS in Harlem.

 

[Deuterion]

They're going to stick a finger up your ass.

I went and they definitely didn’t do that for me but they definitely made me bend over and the looked in my ass. I had a Black doctor and older Black man and his was pissed at me, I didn’t understand what he was telling me at the time…he said:

“Why the hell you fighting in this white man’s army?What they hell you doing?”

I look back at that moment in shame…my elder tried to school me and i was blissfully ignorant.

 

[TheAnointedOne]

I went and they definitely didn’t do that for me but they definitely made me bend over and the looked in my ass. I had a Black doctor and older Black man and his was pissed at me, I didn’t understand what he was telling me at the time…he said:

“Why the hell you fighting in this white man’s army?What they hell you doing?”

I look back at that moment in shame…my elder tried to school me and i was blissfully ignorant.

A black doctor at MEPs? But...isn't he working for the military also?

 

[Deuterion]

A black doctor at MEPs? But...isn't he working for the military also?

Who cares, that’s minutiae.