Ice Cube Says Democrats Don’t Support Black Americans, Says “Nothing Has Changed” With Their Politics

[AnonymityX1000]

Okay, then...

Let's hear it

Politics is not gonna save you. But voting gives you some say and it is the easiest thing in the world to do. It's not hard.

 

[Nomad1]

ice cube is just another smart dumb nikka

 

[TripleAgent]

Politics is not gonna save you. But voting gives you some say and it is the easiest thing in the world to do. It's not hard.

Some say over what? Your Democrat POTUS and VPOTUS are ON CAMERA saying they're not doing anything for Black people! We have leaked emails that confirm their strategy is to listen, then promise or do NOTHING. How are you honoring he ancestors giving the votes they died for you to have away for NOTHING? That sounds crazy.


If voting gives us some say, you can answer The Question

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Some say over what? Your Democrat POTUS and VPOTUS are ON CAMERA saying they're not doing anything for Black people! We have leaked emails that confirm their strategy is to listen, then promise or do NOTHING. How are you honoring he ancestors giving the votes they died for you to have away for NOTHING? That sounds crazy.


If voting gives us some say, you can answer The Question

Not a fan or sticking up for them but it is better than the alternative to who has a chance to win and I completely condone voting 3rd party. Independent of that just honor your ancestors. It's not difficult.

 

[ORDER_66]

Not a fan or sticking up for them but it is better than the alternative to who has a chance to win and I completely condone voting 3rd party. Independent of that just honor your ancestors. It's not difficult.

That's not answering his fukking question tho... you just saying lukewarm bullshyt that we always keep hearing and you wonder why we tired of the bullshyt...

 

[TripleAgent]

Not a fan or sticking up for them but it is better than the alternative to who has a chance to win and I completely condone voting 3rd party. Independent of that just honor your ancestors. It's not difficult.

"lesser of two evils"

Not an answer.

 

[vdfebduderocks]

Thanks for this. My post was general for time and effort reasons and you got more specific which I appreciate. To address your points:

Just an overall comment a lot of your reasons why things are the way they are in a given category is due to politicians lack of political will. They do what they want and pander for votes that's why people are disillusioned.
1. Yeah, I think we currently collect enough taxes to afford it it's just not a priority.
2. Good point about the Supreme Court. It is a pipe dream.
4. The Geopolitics issues are complicated but the reason is again lack of political will they are doing shyt no one even asked them to pols on both sides, which make our foreign policy the way it is. Not saying we are unique in this but in many ways we are the leader in that arena.
5. There are all types of exemptions and incentive programs that just complicate shyt and make it unfair. How do ud mulit million/billion companies go fiscal years without paying federal income tax?

1) Just to be clear, the issues you mention isn't always due to a lack of political will, but it's about a lack of political recourse. The problem is that we end up making some of the bad politicians pay in the general instead of the primary (see: AOC ousting Joe Crowley in NY-14 as an example of a successful primary). There's greater consequence of making flawed politicians pay in the general election (see: Trump).
2) I'd look up some of the overall costs around single payer before saying that for certainty. Not that I'm against single payer, but it would add more of a greater context to your argument.

Additionally, republican grifter groups have been trying as hard as possible to gut out the ACA. Imagine them trying to go after single payer via the courts. There are a bunch of rogue appeals courts in the US (i.e. 5th circuit) which effectively have tried to overturn things that seem like common sense ideas (i.e. student loans, immigration, voting rights, abortion, etc.). These grifter groups go court shopping to the 5th circuit knowing that they'll create a legal fight towards good policy.

The only way to overcome this is by fiat rule, but good luck with that. You have to hope people in these rogue circuits die, but keep in mind that Trump appointed more than 230 judges, including 3 rogue Supreme Court justices that may overrule anything that's good. Some grifter group will say a $20 minimum wage is against a random clause of the Constitution, fight it thru the Supreme Court, and win.

If we want to know why there's no progress, look at the above and connect the dots.

3) I was moreso looking for specific examples of exemptions and incentive programs Democrats have passed. I know a bunch of what the Republicans have passed that look totally unfair -> just look at the previous tax reform bill.

As for going years without paying federal income tax? Look at complicated legal entity structures & concepts such as Net Operating Losses. Most of the way the tax schemes are constructed were established in 1954 (Dwight Eisenhower was president) and 1986 (Reagan). The concept of Net Operating Losses haven't been touched for obvious reasons (it helps startups).

I'd suggest pointing out specific programs passed by either Democrats or Republicans that seem unfair rather than saying why both sides are bad.

4) I think the overall struggle is that unless it's giving money to families, most forms of social or economic progress in this country will be incremental. Almost no progress is instant. Trump fooled a lot of his voters into saying he could fix everything instantly, but even he couldn't.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

That's not answering his fukking question tho... you just saying lukewarm bullshyt that we always keep hearing and you wonder why we tired of the bullshyt...

It's lukewarm. Politics is not the answer to Black people overcoming. But still some good intentioned brothers like you made a difference, dedicated their life to getting us the vote and it worked back in the day. I can honor that once or twice a year for a total of probably 15 minutes.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

"lesser of two evils"

Not an answer.

Some things you do are gonna have 0 payoff. Think of it like playing a free lottery it's likely not going to do something but if it does it will be a pleasant surprise. lol

 

[TripleAgent]

Some things you do are gonna have 0 payoff. Think of it like playing a free lottery it's likely not going to do something but if it does it will be a pleasant surprise. lol

No thank you. The ancestors surely didn't fight and die for that.

 

[mobbinfms]

No one is chronicling your life. I don't know or care what you are doing personally. So you’re not even humble bragging about your contributions isn't what I'm here for. We are in a thread talking about Ice Cube and participating in politics. You requested issues be brought up regarding voting. I thought that's what we were talking about. But no you just wanted to point out what you are doing.

He’s not pointing out what he’s doing, he’s talking about local political issues that affect his community and other nearby communities. He already posted his take on national level issues that were important to him.

 

[mobbinfms]

i was wanting people who have been voting democrat to come in here and explain to me what they have done for black people not hbcus or other bullshyt specifically targeted bills/policies for black people’s benefit . no one can explain that including you. what have they done specifically for black people for you to continue to vote for them? i’ve been asking that question on here for years and no one can answer just “republican bad must keep out” we all know they are pieces of shyt. we do not need to point at yellow wall and call it yellow we know that. are you going to answer the question or continue to tap dance around it?

Are you reading the thread? He’s pointed to multiple issues in his local community.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

No thank you. The ancestors surely didn't fight and die for that.

They literally did tho.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

He’s not pointing out what he’s doing, he’s talking about local political issues that affect his community and other nearby communities. He already posted his take on national level issues that were important to him.

Okay not when I asked. He could have just reposted that then not hard. I'm not reading his every reply.

 

[TripleAgent]

They literally did tho.

Not to be willing pawns for one side and get nothing.