Ice Cube Says Democrats Don’t Support Black Americans, Says “Nothing Has Changed” With Their Politics

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Ok, so....

1) Free Healthcare: I understand the merits of this. For what it's worth, 17 countries adopted "free healthcare." We should really refer to this as single payer healthcare though, if we're being correct.

Just keep in mind that 17 countries have adopted a form of single payer healthcare. The free healthcare is funded by individual tax dollars. Here's the individual tax rates in those countries:

Norway: starts at 38.2%
Japan: 52.12%
United Kingdom: 40% for those making more than 50k
Kuwait
Sweden
Bahrain
Canada: 33%
United Arab Emirates
Denmark: 56%
Finland
Slovenia
Italy
Portugal
Cyprus
Spain
Iceland

I'm not listing all the countries, but you can see the tax rates here:

Also keep in mind that most of these countries impose a Value Added Tax or a Goods & Service Tax which is way more than the average sales tax we pay in the US.

2) Getting money out of politics: I 100% agree with this and there are more dems than republicans that actually support this. However, getting money out of politics means supporting and voting for people that actually believe in this from a local, state, and federal level. That requires mobilization and consistent effort. Note a 1 time effort and - bam - it's over.

Also, getting rid of SuperPACs is impossible because of the Supreme Court case Citizens United. In other words, changing the Supreme Court composition requires a forced retirement or death of Republican justices (not practical) and having enough Dems in the Senate to vote for a more representative justice that could help overturn the Citizens United decision.

3) Higher wages: Agree, but the solution is above.

4) War in Ukraine: There's this issue called Geopolitics where getting out is easier said than done because the war impacts things such as gas prices, inflation, supply chains, etc. etc. etc. So when people complain why things are expensive, that is a major reason why. Ideally, I'd like to stay out of wars too, but it's not that easy.

5) Taxes: Curious to see what these exceptions are that you are referring to. Also, the solution to a simpler tax code is above.
Thanks for this. My post was general for time and effort reasons and you got more specific which I appreciate. To address your points:

Just an overall comment a lot of your reasons why things are the way they are in a given category is due to politicians lack of political will. They do what they want and pander for votes that's why people are disillusioned.
1. Yeah, I think we currently collect enough taxes to afford it it's just not a priority.
2. Good point about the Supreme Court. It is a pipe dream.
4. The Geopolitics issues are complicated but the reason is again lack of political will they are doing shyt no one even asked them to pols on both sides, which make our foreign policy the way it is. Not saying we are unique in this but in many ways we are the leader in that arena.
5. There are all types of exemptions and incentive programs that just complicate shyt and make it unfair. How do ud mulit million/billion companies go fiscal years without paying federal income tax?
 

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If you care about Black people, why aren’t you vested in local policies that impact your area? why can’t you introduce him here instead of telling me to prove myself? I sat in bed sty restoration Plaza weeks back regarding the smoke shops. This isn’t pretending for me. I just don’t find that many of the folks like you who talk have any real interest in local politics, because politics is local. To bring up Ukraine and politics impacting Black people? :childplease:
You act like I didn't address your smoke shop issue with what was going on locally in my community but I will let you cook. lol
 

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Do you honestly think they did all that so you could give it away for nothing and be poor all these decades later? Voting for Dems, or the Black candidate who is White on the inside, or whatever without getting anything just 'cause, is even more of a disservice to them.
Literally yes, they died so you can vote. It's not complicated. Your excuse why it doesn't matter is something else. And it's just a vote among thousands/millions not a love letter. You don't have to love everything about the candidates to vote.
 

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Exactly.

No political curiosity on policy of your own.

You just want an opportunity to social media bash, not learn something. Stop pretending. You have zero interest of learning democratic policies on your own. Look at the rest of what you wrote. but want to pretend good faith actor with willingness to learn? :mjlol:

Stop lying. You have zero interest in learning
you still not answering the question. are you going to list policies that are aimed at benefitting black people or just turn around and try to gaslight me? this shouldnt be hard if you have been voting for people you felt was worthy of your vote.

if you sidestep this or ignore this post you are proving my point and should be embarrassed.
 

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I just want a viable 3rd party that truly respects my interests as a black man with a family.

But since that aint around right now, I vote dem due to what I'm actively seeing these Republican fukkbois doing. Don't really care for them either, but I gotta protect my interests.
Obama was a once in a lifetime candidate that people were actually excited to vote for and support. That likely won’t happen again. People have to get comfortable with the idea that in a binary system you will be voting against someone far more than you will be voting for someone. I.e. voting for Biden as a way to vote against Trump and get him out of there. Voting for Biden again as a way to prevent Trump or Deaantis from winning. That’s how it will be for, likely, the rest of our lives. We had our moment with Obama.
 

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Literally yes, they died so you can vote. It's not complicated. Your excuse why it doesn't matter is something else. And it's just a vote among thousands/millions not a love letter. You don't have to love everything about the candidates to vote.
No offense, because you sound like a decent person, but that sounds incredibly lost and defeated.
 

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samething voting

not a muhfukkin thing
Not true. Had a very small number of people (I forget the numbers, but I think it was 100,000-200,000) voted for Clinton in 2016, Roe v Wade would still be law. She literally just needed Obama turnout numbers.
 

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Doing something (voting) = lost and defeated.
Not doing something (not voting) = sticking it to the system?

lol
Okay, then...
Once again, it's time for The Question? ™️ :

How do Black people win voting blind Democrat, when the Democrats are PUBLICALLY telling us they won'tdo anything for us, median Black wealth is trending toward $0 in the next 15 to 30 years, we continue to get killed almost legally, and are a continuous underclass, WITHOUT USING ANY VARIATION OF:

  • but Republicans or but Trump, etc.
  • lesser of the evils
  • our ancestors fought for the right, so we just have to because
  • what does not voting (or voting R, which we don't) accomplish
  • "hold them accountable", because it's impossible to hold them accountable if you won't not vote for them
I need a clear, logical, practical, TANGIBLE plan. As always, if you can answer this in a way I can't defeat, I will on video, apologize, register and vote for whatever Democrat POTUS candidate is there, and never question you again. Feel free to call in all the Dem booticking, Bidensexual shills on the board, I've been asking them for years, and not one good answer yet.
Let's hear it
 

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Whatever is being done via policy is marginal and not effecting every Black person. People are discussing very big and tangible outcomes. We get abstractions that are hard to measure and impossible to collectively feel. For example, the child tax credit the beginning of Biden's administration was nice but it was hundreds of dollars a month and eventually ended. It was a marginal change that didn’t last. Those are the types of things we get. People want something bigger/more tangible.
Lol. A couple hundred dollars a month is a big fukking deal for a lot of Americans. Biden put a huge dent in child poverty for about a year. Too bad it ended.
 
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