Ice Cube Says Democrats Don’t Support Black Americans, Says “Nothing Has Changed” With Their Politics

[vdfebduderocks]

What are the major issues for you?
Free healthcare: both parties are against it. I want it and think it is waaay past due in the U.S.
Getting money out of politics: both parties are against it. I think this will help our politics greatly and have pols concentrate on the people first instead of their donors like they do currently.
Higher wages: Dems are more for it but not at a high enough rate. Minimum wage nationally needs to be $20 at least. They are currently proposing $15.
War in Ukraine: Dems are more Gung ho than Republicans. I don't care at all and think we should pull out. Not our problem.
Taxes: Repubs want them low as possible and Dems like to create exceptions out the ass making tax policy as confusing as possible. I want a simpler progressive tax code with very few exceptions that tax rich people (over $500K) to be at least 50%.

These are my major issues and both are failures IMO.

Ok, so....

1) Free Healthcare: I understand the merits of this. We should really refer to this as single payer healthcare though, if we're being correct.

Just keep in mind that 17 countries have adopted a form of single payer healthcare. The free healthcare is funded by individual tax dollars. Here's the individual tax rates in those countries:

Norway: starts at 38.2%
Japan: 52.12%
United Kingdom: 40% for those making more than 50k
Kuwait
Sweden
Bahrain
Canada: 33%
United Arab Emirates
Denmark: 56%
Finland
Slovenia
Italy
Portugal
Cyprus
Spain
Iceland

I'm not listing all the countries, but you can see the tax rates here:

List of Countries by Personal Income Tax Rate

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Also keep in mind that most of these countries impose a Value Added Tax or a Goods & Service Tax which is way more than the average sales tax we pay in the US.

2) Getting money out of politics: I 100% agree with this and there are more dems than republicans that actually support this. However, getting money out of politics means supporting and voting for people that actually believe in this from a local, state, and federal level. That requires mobilization and consistent effort. Note a 1 time effort and - bam - it's over.

Also, getting rid of SuperPACs is impossible because of the Supreme Court case Citizens United. In other words, changing the Supreme Court composition requires a forced retirement or death of Republican justices (not practical) and having enough Dems in the Senate to vote for a more representative justice that could help overturn the Citizens United decision.

3) Higher wages: Agree, but the solution is above.

4) War in Ukraine: There's this issue called Geopolitics where getting out is easier said than done because the war impacts things such as gas prices, inflation, supply chains, etc. etc. etc. So when people complain why things are expensive, that is a major reason why. Ideally, I'd like to stay out of wars too, but it's not that easy.

5) Taxes: Curious to see what these exceptions are that you are referring to. Also, the solution to a simpler tax code is above.

 

[Frump]

Why can’t dudes like him just be honest and say look I’m rich and I don’t want the democrats to win and to tax the sh1t out of me

I mean he claims was working with the Trump campaign because Trump wanted to help black Americans this dude just wants keep his money but tries to make some bullshyt up

 

[NYC Rebel]

Why can’t dudes like him just be honest and say look I’m rich and I don’t want the democrats to win and to tax the sh1t out of me

I mean he claims was working with the Trump campaign because Trump wanted to help black Americans this dude just wants keep his money but tries to make some bullshyt up

And when Trump Jr was peddling his name, he was “nahhhhh!” Lol.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

As I said again… It’s obvious that you guys don’t do the work because you want somebody to do the label for you. Just say you’ve never had political curiosity even investigate what policy makers are doing and its impact on us.

It’s draining to hear people who claim they love Black people, but show that they have done zero work to know what policies are, or aren’t impacting us. Somehow, its on me to produce a list of policies you didnt bother looking for prior to coming in here.

Let’s call it a day. To bring up a list of policies, the next the coli would do is to tear them down and say they are ineffectual while not saying zero about republican policies.

We know the routine. Negros dont care. Cube wrote a 10 page black agenda while refusing to look at a war and peace sized agenda many in the Black caucus put together before he became an unwitting Trump tool.

Im tired.

Not willing to do what you asked of others? You see why the conversation is going the way it is then right?

 

[NYC Rebel]

Not willing to do what you asked of others? You see why the conversation is going the way it is then right?

I’m knee-deep in this.

And I’ve already brought some local level politics up. You did not bring up a solitary local policy until responding to me and talking about Harlem.

Find comfort in thinking that something was accomplished in thinking I don’t know that politics is local and I have no vested interest in it. Whatever works for you. You have brought zero granular politics and its impact on Black people into here

 

[AnonymityX1000]

as someone who is familiar with you long enough i dont gotta spoonfeed you

1. ukraine is a destabilization technique pushed by russia

2. repubs have historically raised taxes and overwhelmingly have defended corporations

1. What's that have to do with my position?
2. I'm talking current conditions not historically. They both defend corporations.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

I’ve done what was ass. I’m knee-deep in this.

And I’ve already brought some local level policies up. You did not bring up a solitary local policy until responding to me and talking about Harlem.

Find comfort in thinking that something was accomplished in thinking I don’t know that politics is local and I have no vested interest in it. Whatever works for you. You have brought zero granular politics and its impact on Black people into here

Blah blah blah, you asked people to list policies and then when asked to do the same you balked. The end.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Blah blah blah, you asked people to list policies and then when asked to do the same you balked. The end.

Exactly. Blah blah blah. That’s what I expect from you. You have no vested interest in politics. Bumper sticker sloganeering “taxes” ”Ukraine“ is a tell tale sign of zero interest in local level politics. That bumper sticker CNN at 6pm talk

Am I supposed to not bring up the $2 million in funding secured to opening up school playgrounds in my old district?

Am I supposed to overlook the one dollar home initiative in Newark because you can’t talk local politics?

Am I supposed to ignore the legislation to appropriate $520,000 to support care for Black mothers during and after pregnancy considering who is dying when giving because you cant talk local politics?

Blah blah blah = mask to cover your never interest.

I wish you dudes would stop pretending that you follow policy.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Exactly. Blah blah blah. That’s what I expect from you. You have no vested interest in politics. Bumper sticker sloganeering “taxes” ”Ukraine“ is a tell tale sign of zero interest in local level politics. That bumper sticker CNN at 6pm talk

Am I supposed to not bring up the $2 million in funding secured to opening up school playgrounds in my old district?

Am I supposed to overlook the one dollar home initiative in Newark because you can’t talk local politics?

Am I supposed to ignore the legislation to appropriate $520,000 to support care for Black mothers during and after pregnancy considering who is dying when giving because you cant talk local politics?

Blah blah blah = mask to cover your never interest.

I wish you dudes would stop pretending that you follow policy.

No one is chronicling your life. I don't know or care what you are doing personally. So your not even humble bragging about your contributions isn't what I'm here for. We are in a thread talking about Ice Cube and participating in politics. You requested issues be brought up regarding voting. I thought that's what we were talking about. But no you just wanted to point out what you are doing.

 

[NYC Rebel]

No one is chronicling your life. I don't know or care what you are doing personally. So your not even humble bragging about your contributions isn't what I'm here for. We are in a thread talking about Ice Cube and participating in politics. You requested issues be brought up regarding voting. I thought that's what we were talking about. But no you just wanted to point out what you are doing.

If you care about Black people, why aren’t you vested in local policies that impact your area? why can’t you introduce him here instead of telling me to prove myself? I sat in bed sty restoration Plaza weeks back regarding the smoke shops. This isn’t pretending for me. I just don’t find that many of the folks like you who talk have any real interest in local politics, because politics is local. To bring up Ukraine and politics impacting Black people?

 

[Renegade47]

You are admitting to coming in here never having any political curiosity. Its supposed to come to you in a list.

You can do this yourself. Then Compare it to Republican policies.

This is why we lose. Dudes dont care enough to even do the work but swear they know its failed while republicans are out there doing the absolute worst and dont get ounce of scrutiny.

i was wanting people who have been voting democrat to come in here and explain to me what they have done for black people not hbcus or other bullshyt specifically targeted bills/policies for black people’s benefit . no one can explain that including you. what have they done specifically for black people for you to continue to vote for them? i’ve been asking that question on here for years and no one can answer just “republican bad must keep out” we all know they are pieces of shyt. we do not need to point at yellow wall and call it yellow we know that. are you going to answer the question or continue to tap dance around it?

 

[ILLMMORTAL]

He’s right….fukking democrats don’t do shyt but talk and get bullied by the republicans! The constant that democrats stay focused on is keeping republicans out of office on every level of politics,that’s it…..b*stards!

 

[TripleAgent]

I vote to honor the Black folks who literally died for that right. It's the least I could do and in NYC it is very easy. I had to stand in line for like an hour to vote for Obama the 2nd time. Every other election day there is no line and it takes all of 5 to 10 minutes to do. It's easy.

Do you honestly think they did all that so you could give it away for nothing and be poor all these decades later? Voting for Dems, or the Black candidate who is White on the inside, or whatever without getting anything just 'cause, is even more of a disservice to them.

Anybody that downplays why we have supported Democrats over the past couple decades is a bozo and they’re typically wealthy people that are somewhat immune to the economic policies republicans push that over whelming affect black communities. Having said that I don’t think we as a community should blindly vote for anybody but to act like the Republican Party doesn’t push overtly racist policy is batshyt crazy

1. Who said the Republican Party is wild racist? Those crackers are the worst. fukk them, period, end of story.
2. Since I'm a "bozo", how about you take a crack at The Question . Maybe you can tell me the plan since nobody has for years.

Why can’t dudes like him just be honest and say look I’m rich and I don’t want the democrats to win and to tax the sh1t out of me

I mean he claims was working with the Trump campaign because Trump wanted to help black Americans this dude just wants keep his money but tries to make some bullshyt up

So...I guess you missed where he reached out to Biden-Harris, they said "wait until after the election", then dubbed him?

 

[NYC Rebel]

i was wanting people

Exactly.

No political curiosity on policy of your own.

You just want an opportunity to social media bash, not learn something. Stop pretending. You have zero interest of learning democratic policies on your own. Look at the rest of what you wrote. but want to pretend good faith actor with willingness to learn?

Stop lying. You have zero interest in learning

 

[NYC Rebel]

So...I guess you missed where he reached out to Biden-Harris, they said "wait until after the election", then dubbed him?

That dude came to them with a 10 page black agenda. What on earth of people supposed to do with that?

He couldn’t even bring in experts along side him on it