If God doesn't act, is he complicit?

[JuvenileHell]

depends on how you view God from reading the OT

if you view him as a person like yourself (a projection) then everything wrong you see in him is what you perceive...but if you dont perceive those things then the projection you have changes

the question is this...is it up to man or god to define mans perception?

IE a short story:

you got a friend who when you met him was on even keel and everything is peachy...then hard times hit and you are doing well and he is struggling and blaming everything and everyone for his bad circumstance

you come to him and offer him advice out of his rut, but instead of taking your advice, he admonishes you and rants that no one understands his perspective and blames everyone and everything that he surmises got him there.

Is the problem that you don't understand his perspective..or that he is unwilling to question his own perspective?

Bro, what possible reason could there be for me to not only willingly and genuinely love, but worship and an all knowin, all powerful, ever present being that created me (and I had no say in that) and will only save me from whatever evil and horrible conditions if I am subservient to him. Save me from evil and horrible conditions mind you, that HE ALSO CREATED.

Why should I not despise this being.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Its all plagiarized. Every last bit of what came out of Babylon was coopted imo and should be scrutinized

You can't plagiarize something you created. Every civilization in the ANE drew from the SAME theological/naturalistic outlook.

That, for instance, is why ALL of them had the same cosmology.​

 

[trillanova]

The God most people pray to isn't doing enough. There I said it.

For an all powerful all knowing God, it's fukking lazy and seems to not care how this shyt goes.

Also, what kind of "loving" God is like, "if ya'll don't know me or fukk with me ya'll can burn in a like of fire forever"



It really had to be an eternal lake of fire? Sounds like a sick b*stard. Don't wanna worship an a$$hole

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

How many times are y'all gonna use the Euthyphro Dilemma without realizing it isn't a 'true' dilemma?

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[Chrishaune]

The God most people pray to isn't doing enough. There I said it.

For an all powerful all knowing God, it's fukking lazy and seems to not care how this shyt goes.

Also, what kind of "loving" God is like, "if ya'll don't know me or fukk with me ya'll can burn in a like of fire forever"



It really had to be an eternal lake of fire? Sounds like a sick b*stard. Don't wanna worship an a$$hole

You can believe what you want to believe. God allows that. Doesn't mean you will be right though....

 

[trillanova]

You can believe what you want to believe. God allows that. Doesn't mean you will be right though....

It doesn't mean I'm wrong either

 

[Deafheaven]

I see the bible thumpers are in rare form in here talking down to people and going in circles like we aren't smart enough to discern a ancient text written by dudes in a desert having fever dreams

Whats next? The bible isnt all allegorical? Since no one in here can really settle on if its meant to be taken literally or not, or if we even have solid interpretations. That one goofy nikka who insinuated you needed to do something like travel to a ancient temple near the Dead Sea and speak with master Malachi on the 5th of August under a crescent moon to get the true unfiltered message of god

Ya'll cats cannot use scripture to prove a point and then turn around and say we can't understand it or its not literal. You look ridiculous.

 

[Micky Mikey]

You understand you have to stand before God and answer for what you say don't you?

You should be afraid to speak on Yahweh....

But you will understand. I don't care if you feel like you have your whole life ahead of you. God can allow you to be taken out of here soon. Then you will meet Him.

The time for playing around is about to come to an end.

Have you ever had a direct experience of or with God?
I only ask because you seem to have a very fear based conception of God. What is your relation with God outside of reading and adhering to texts and scriptures?

 

[MMS]

Bro, what possible reason could there be for me to not only willingly and genuinely love, but worship and an all knowin, all powerful, ever present being that created me (and I had no say in that) and will only save me from whatever evil and horrible conditions if I am subservient to him. Save me from evil and horrible conditions mind you, that HE ALSO CREATED.

Why should I not despise this being.

that despite the horrible conditions and evils in the world...he still made you and gifted you existence God is reality itself

consider how many people say to themselves: I am alone and the world is cruel, if its not me its them, if its not my seeds its their seeds, if its not my woman i share that woman gmb

but then you read this and it speak it aloud:

Galatians 3:1-5

1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.

5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

if wickedness truly ruled the world...you would not see any good things would you...as there is no purpose of greater good if there is no god...it is simply a fleshly seed competition?

belief and perception is the gateway to understanding self, but meditation, prayer and communion is the way to understanding God

if you look at the world only on the surface (fleshly thinking) then you will only understand flesh...but if you understand spiritually what is happening you will see things differently

 

[Deafheaven]

Its amazing seeing normally rational and logical thinkers throw all that shyt out the window when they start quoting bible verses

 

[Chrishaune]

Have you ever had a direct experience of or with God?
I only ask because you seem to have a very fear based conception of God.

Yes. To answer your question.

God is full of love, but you better respect and reverence Him. If you play around it's detrimental to you.

He showed me just how in control He is. I can't help but respect Yahweh and His son Yeshua.

 

[kevm3]

I see the bible thumpers are in rare form in here talking down to people and going in circles like we aren't smart enough to discern a ancient text written by dudes in a desert having fever dreams

Whats next? The bible isnt all allegorical? Since no one in here can really settle on if its meant to be taken literally or not, or if we even have solid interpretations. That one goofy nikka who insinuated you needed to do something like travel to a ancient temple near the Dead Sea and speak with master Malachi on the 5th of August under a crescent moon to get the true unfiltered message of god

Ya'll cats cannot use scripture to prove a point and then turn around and say we can't understand it or its not literal. You look ridiculous.

Not sure why it's so hard for atheists just to 'not believe' and move on with their lives, but I always see thread after thread of them trying to convince others and possibly themselves that God cannot possibly be real. I never see threads about them espousing their own actual beliefs and the benefits thereof but only attempting to denigrate the beliefs of others... maybe because we can actually see the death and destruction that has resulted from atheist governments such as communist china and soviet union among others. We're 'talking in circles' because no matter what we say, atheists are just going to try to find some other thing to harp on. It gets tiring arguing the same thing over and over.

 

[Cat piss martini]

man's life is a blink of an eye.....or less
In God's sense of time.
to compare a life of suffering seems pretty
trivial when compared to an eternity of being bathed
in the light of love and peace.
it would be like child birth.
the pain of labor seems like hell until the child is born.
the mother doesnt even feel the pain
after laying eyes on her child.

 

[MMS]

Its amazing seeing normally rational and logical thinkers throw all that shyt out the window when they start quoting bible verses

belief and spirituality IS rational thinking

unbelief is to believe you have no reason to be here at all, and therefore a nihilistic worldview

once you find yourself living in nihilism you'll find yourself in problem after problem as you are fundamentally detached emotionally and spiritually to the people and creatures you come across.

like consider a cannibal, the line he crosses is that he says in his mind...im but a beast and so are other people. Beasts have flesh so there is no difference between flesh. There is no higher reasoning other than this, which fundamentally is a projection of self belief.

To lack spiritual thinking in your beliefs is to deny yourself fundamentally

man's life is a blink of an eye.....or less
In God's sense of time.
to compare a life of suffering seems pretty
trivial when compared to an eternity of being bathed
in the light of love and peace.
it would be like child birth.
the pain of labor seems like hell until the child is born.
the mother doesnt even feel the pain
after laying eyes on her child.

rep

 

[Deafheaven]

Not sure why it's so hard for atheists just to 'not believe' and move on with their lives, but I always see thread after thread of them trying to convince others and possibly themselves that God cannot possibly be real. I never see threads about them espousing their own actual beliefs and the benefits thereof but only attempting to denigrate the beliefs of others... maybe because we can actually see the death and destruction that has resulted from atheist governments such as communist china and soviet union among others. We're 'talking in circles' because no matter what we say, atheists are just going to try to find some other thing to harp on. It gets tiring arguing the same thing over and over.

breh. I already said I'm not atheist. far from it actually. If there was some compelling information that God exists I would be a christian tomorrow, literally. so anything after that is just fluff from you, as per usual. You talk about death and destruction because of atheism but ignore the fukked up shyt thats happened in the name of christianity. Typical wont even admit the bible justifies the shackles we were put in for hundreds of years but want to bring up China

Ironically you're more atheist than me. I believe all gods COULD be real. You think only yours is.