If she's not submissive, don't date her. Simple

[Action Mike]

The fact that he didn't marry his ex makes his whole argument null and void.

The fact you see the world so black and white shows your very sheltered same way as some brehettes here.

You didnt even take into account asking the ages of either OP or the girl at the time, even when breh says he learnt and wouldnt curve her now is not enough for you.

So

Lesson is marry every girl your with i guess

 

[YeLovesBoston]

The fact that he didn't marry his ex makes his whole argument null and void.

 

[Sensei]

@No_bammer_weed
@s0cks

Dated for like 2 years, she was great. Just didn't work out. Maybe cause we were kinda young
I'm talking to a girl now. Same exact attributes like my ex. I'm older now, so I'm looking towards having kids and a family with her

I'm assuming if she followed your lead, she had problems sticking to it or it wasn't her maybe life gave you problems cause you were too young.This is why people are scratching their heads with what wrong.This is the reason I really don't dig in to peoples relationship , love matters, and lives ,there's no clarity.

 

[Killer Instinct]

Two people can't equally lead one household. It doesn't make sense. They can equally respect and love one another, but not lead.

"Too many chiefs, not enough Indians."


This really needs to be reiterated.
It's painfully obvious a lot people in these discussions don't come from two parent households.
They never witnessed that dynamic and got their rhetoric about "submission" and strength from their unwed aunts and Tyler Perry.

 

[Liyaaa]

How is cooking/cleaning/sex being submissive, thou?.

I thought being a doormat, as in accepting being cheated on or getting a beat down every other week...was "submissive". There's plenty of women who happily put up with that.

 

[blackslash]

What Op describes is the ideal that relationships need to aspire to..

Like i always say

A home cant be ran by 2 heads and no body

It needs a head(Man) and body(Woman)

Dnt let these feminists make u feel guilty for thinking this way breh

 

[blackslash]

Here's where a lot of y'all nikkas get fukked up in the game. You aint gotta tell a women to be submissive. You aint gotta even bring the subject up. You just have to be a man worth submitting to and women will naturally fall in line. The reality is most y'all nikkas really aint bout shyt and the women you fukk with treat you accordingly.

Why would a women follow you when most y'all nikkas can't even lead yourselves out of debt?

dat ether

 

[Londilon]

That's stupid. Wanting submission and getting submission does not necessarily mean a relationship is gonna work. He may have been immature, got all of those things and still messed up and cheated on her (or plenty of other things). He just simply may not have been ready to lead. Just because someone submits doesn't mean they've submitted to someone who can handle it. Submission does not mean perfection by any means. You could be submissive/be submitted to and be a crap mother/father and that ends the relationship. Relationship is not a prefect science, and the idea of submission is just one piece of the pie.

The fact of the matter is we do not know the actual reason why it didn't work outside of being young and dumb. Either way, he did not deserve to be treated like a husband when he was a young and a immature boy. The girl wasted her time with him and him telling women to do just like his ex does will only make women NOT be submissive because they aren't looking to be in relationships that waste their time. Us men have more time to find a mate and have a family, while women, because of their bioclock can't.

 

[Action Mike]

I'm assuming if she followed your lead, she had problems sticking to it or it wasn't her maybe life gave you problems cause you were too young.This is why people are scratching their heads with what wrong.This is the reason I really don't dig in to peoples relationship , love matters, and lives ,there's no clarity.

Same way brehs scratch their heads when a female leaves because she not 'feeling this anymore'.

People keep leaving out the last sentence of what you quoted...

 

[blackslash]

The fact of the matter is we do not know the actual reason why it didn't work outside of being young and dumb. Either way, he did not deserve to be treated like a husband when he was a young and immature boy. The girl wasted her time with him and him telling women to do just like his ex does will only make women NOT be submissive because they aren't looking to be in relationships that waste their time. Us men have more time to find a mate and have a family, while women, because of their bioclock can't.

truuuu

 

[blackslash]

Matta fact lemme take this back..

Men can want the submissive women
but at the same time women can want the lifetime commitment before giving u that submission

How can u expect a woman to submit to an unsure thing

Men fearing commitment is one reason why women fear submitting tbh

 

[Londilon]

Matta fact lemme take this back..

Men can want the submissive women
but at the same time women can want the lifetime commitment before giving u that submission

How can u expect a woman to submit to an unsure thing

Men fearing commitment is one reason why women fear submitting tbh

This is what I was basically thinking.

 

[Londilon]

The fact you see the world so black and white shows your very sheltered same way as some brehettes here.

You didnt even take into account asking the ages of either OP or the girl at the time, even when breh says he learnt and wouldnt curve her now is not enough for you.

So

Lesson is marry every girl your with i guess

No I see the world by more than one perspective. Most of you simple minded nikkas only see shyt from your view. If you thought about not just yourself and the women you are dating a lot of drama and bullshyt would be cut to the side.

 

[Whooty Chaser]

I don't want a submissive woman or a feminist, I just like a normal chick that'll respect me.

OP sounds like a bytch ass nikka that runs from confrontation.

 

[DreadBrown]

I can't find the original post but "doing what you're told"
Is obedient. Not submissive.

So many folks in here just inventing new meanings to words smh

But submission has a very clear meaning. Its only the advocates in here claiming it means something else. Half the 'submissive qualities' being listed in here have nothing to do with submitting .

The other half are attributes I'd expect to find in children and domesticated animals. My s/o doesn't have to submit to my will and I don't need her to, we want the same things in life thats why she's my s/o.