if vick isnt named the starter soon im turning on chip

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When you hear about someone arguing about Nick Foles might be a better QB than Vick, makes me want to start watching soccer and saying f*ck this sh*t. The one place there shouldn't be an agenda is sports :smh:
I started reading this thread on the last page and moving backwards, but let me guess your talking about Phillycavsfan right? Take anything he says about Vick with a grain of salt, he hates dude lol
 

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I swear some people are insane...Nick Foles was never getting the starting job and all this bullshyt talk about an open competition for the job was Chip Kelly blowing smoke.
And at the practice I was at Nick Foles looked like shyt.
 

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There were some truths but the bad logic in your post is comparing Brady and Manning to Vick? Why would you compare the so called elite to Vick to make a point when their are 29 other QBs who do not compare either.....You could have used Eli, Flacco or Big Ben as a barometer but I guess that would have made Vick look a little bit bit better than you really wanted too and on top of that, no where did you mention the Eagle' s porous defense.

I was comparing him to guys who are the best at it in regards to in game play by play management.... VICK is really the polar opposite from them, so it was better to contrast him with them.

My post was about Mike Vick's offensive woes for the past two seasons , the defensive problems on this team was a completely different unrelated beast..
 

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I started reading this thread on the last page and moving backwards, but let me guess your talking about Phillycavsfan right? Take anything he says about Vick with a grain of salt, he hates dude lol

When did I say Foles was better than Vick? I said Foles could've improved from last season because he's young.
 

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Occam's razor, they are simply trying to recreate the zeitgeist pre 100 milly contract when Vick was trying to prove himself, plus they kill 2 birds with one stone, if it works, its 2010 all over again, if it doesnt and Foles is better than Vick then they have a young qb whose skills are equal or better than most of the starting qbs in the league (if you view Vick as a legit starter in the league) and they have something to build upon.
Call it the Romo Bledsoe conundrum, if undrafted Romo is better than Bledsoe, you just may have something there
 
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I was comparing him to guys who are the best at it in regards to in game play by play management.... VICK is really the polar opposite from them, so it was better to contrast him with them.

My post was about Mike Vick's offensive woes for the past two seasons , the defensive problems on this team was a completely different unrelated beast..

The defensive deficiencies are absolutely related...If you can't stop a team from scoring and play from behind the majority of the time then guess what,,?? Your play calling switches up which in turn is gonna effect QB play..No question about it...

Its hard to manage a game when you're constantly behind.
 

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The defensive deficiencies are absolutely related...If you can't stop a team from scoring and play from behind the majority of the time then guess what,,?? Your play calling switches up which in turn is gonna effect QB play..No question about it...

Its hard to manage a game when you're constantly behind.

Defense has nothing to do with him throwing into double coverage and not recognizing a blitz.
 

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Matt Barkley is the odd man out. Dude isn't even in the running although analysts were clamoring for it after he got drafted.
 

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The defensive deficiencies are absolutely related...If you can't stop a team from scoring and play from behind the majority of the time then guess what,,?? Your play calling switches up which in turn is gonna effect QB play..No question about it...

Its hard to manage a game when you're constantly behind.

Good point that they are related, But ask yourself honestly last year who dug the hole for the eagles most of the time last year... the offense or the defense..

you know what, The offense was the bigger problem last year rather than the defense .... there were times when the defense was decent but the offense was stagnant either they would turn the ball over or they would go three and out. Putting way too much pressure on the defense

If the defense is constantly out there, they are eventually going to get exposed and give up big plays due to fatigue or the opposing offense getting entirely too comfortable with what the Eagles defense is throwing at them.
 
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Good point that they are related, But ask yourself honestly last year who dug the hole for the eagles most of the time last year... the offense or the defense..

you know what, The offense was the bigger problem last year rather than the defense .... there were times when the defense was decent but the offense was stagnant either they would turn the ball over or they would go three and out. Putting way too much pressure on the defense

If the defense is constantly out there, they are eventually going to get exposed and give up big plays due to fatigue or the opposing offense getting entirely too comfortable with what the Eagles defense is throwing at them.


Well. In retrospect, the offense was a mess and the play calling needed to be a lot more efficient to compensate for the holes in the Offensive line.

I am in no way saying that Vick needs to throw the ball 40 plust times a game, because he is not that type of QB and quite frankly, he shouldn't have to with a RB like McCoy.

But what I am saying is that Vick's unique skillset is too good, even at 33, to just throw in the bushes. He can make a lot of throws, but the offense has to be less timing and patience and more dinking and dunking if Vick is gonna be utilized to the fullest. You'll get the ball out of his hands faster and he can stay upright and still show the threat of scampering for a quick 7 yards...He is hard to defend.

It almost seems like they went for the big play on every play last year...Don't know if that was Reid or Mornhinweg who was the cause of that.

So yeah, I guess you're right in that regard that the O did put a lot of pressure on the D in good number of those games because I do recall a lot of mindblowing 3 and outs or a play or two each game where there was some type of break down in communication on offense.....
 
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