If you are BROKE, it's your fault! Do y'all agree?

If you are broke, it's your fault?

  • Yes

    Votes: 46 59.0%
  • Heck no

    Votes: 32 41.0%

  • Total voters
    78

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Im viewing it on my YouTube app right now on the phone and I’m not a member
The point is that one of the main subject matters that channel Pocket Watching with JT covers is internet scammers who grift black people into joining, and in most cases, paying for fugazi memberships for fugazi services, i.e pyramid schemes. That’s why he said it’s ironic lol.
 
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I tried to get on and argue against the topic but the way he has it setup is annoying to deal with it, if he had his chat replay enabled I would just copy and past my points from there. Long story short, no, I don't think your financial circumstances are your fault but I approach life as a hard determinist, I don't believe in free will and hardly give way to compatibilism. I just wanted to bring that argument up to see how he responded, taking issue with the "your fault" part of the argument, and stretching it out to other positions to see if he would hold true to the argument.

For example, using a war stricken territory:
1. Is it your fault that you were born in that country stricken with war?
2. Is it your fault that war is ongoing in your country?
3. Is it your fault that you are subjected to the ills of war?
4. Is it your fault if the war directly impacts you and leaves you homeless, handicapped, or worse, death?

1-4 with causences following the previous circumstance. And with that, the lack of agency you have over the following points given the severity of the previous ones.

And it would pair with:

1. Is it your fault that you were born to a poor family (Your family's income is one of the if not the most consistent predictor of your future income in life)
2. Is it your fault that the environment your family lives in is stricken with poverty? ( Access to better education, especially something as simple as pre-k, access to extracurricular activities, public libraries, smaller class rooms, job location and opportunities) I can go on and on
3. Is it your fault that your environment (following 1&2) have now lead to you being subjected to the ills of it? (Statically speaking, all I have listed above are great predictors for determining where you will end up in life financially, there are obviously exceptions to the rule but most will not break these predictors.)
4. Now is it your fault that you are now, lower class, in debt, are financially illiterate, turned to crime, possibly imprisoned, have a financially crippling medical situation? ( I can go on and on, but the previous predictors are also strong predictors for what follows on this line)

So with that, no, it is not your fault, from my perspective. Of course this doesn't mean you can't be assisted or guided towards making better decisions, hopefully these things cross your path and make an impact at some point in time. So while I respect the advice he offers people, I don't much care for his approach to life. A lot of people make it places, a give little for what got them there, it's just lazy, lacking empathy, and does nothing to help others in worse predicaments. But I understand what leads people to think like that.
 

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A wise man once said

My uncle pulled me to the side
And he schooled me quick, told me son gooey- spit
You can't get paid in a earth this big, you worthless kid
 

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Pocket watching with JT makes good content.. surprised they started putting their videos behind a pay wall.

You could have caught this stream live as well as a bit after it aired.

Anyways, I don't agree with everything they say but I agree with most of it.
 

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Just think about all of the immigrants that cant speak a lick of english and end up being doctors, mollionaire business owners, etc.. that should tell you it all right there.. no excuses especially this day and age.
You'd be shocked and amazed at how many immigrants game the system to get where they are:sas2:

People been low key exposed but nothing ever came from it because folks only make a thing when Black Americans are making a come up. I personally knew Asian folks that had relatives come over and get on public assistance to get welfare and save money to buy businesses while everyone is staying in the same house and working but having everything supplemented as well as using first time loans to buy property to make enclaves:sas2: one time somebody got exposed by a cashier at a store when they pulled up the amount an old grandpa had on an EBT card with like $3k on it, all types of mess like that goes on with Middle Eastern gas stations in the hood too but those dudes get busted from time to time cause they get greedy :sas1:

People ain't coming over here with no education the first thing they look for before getting here is where to get put on at:hubie:
 

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This nerdy, four eyes square calls himself the pocket watcher, and y'all watch him? Birds of a feather flock together. This square became popular on here for down talking people getting pandemic money. Get your money up and stop worrying about the next man's pockets. Mad because you were too scared to get some pandemic money. Fortune favors the bold, snitch.
 

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Depends where you are born, if you have average intelligence, your ability to focus/plan, opportunities available.

Assuming all that is straight ( like most people on this forum) then yes, I agree. Get a job, don't spend money on bullchit, dont have have ridiculous vices or fall into traps like expensive rent or crazy car notes. Live within your means. Maintain this level for a couple years. Done. Now you wont be well off of course, but you won't be broke. Most employed people that's broke in the game are because of dumb financial choices, not because of an inability to stack bread.
 

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This nerdy, four eyes square calls himself the pocket watcher, and y'all watch him? Birds of a feather flock together. This square became popular on here for down talking people getting pandemic money. Get your money up and stop worrying about the next man's pockets. Mad because you were too scared to get some pandemic money. Fortune favors the bold, snitch.
Maaaaan shut your dumb ass up
 
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