If you didn't buy a Wii U, then the Switch launch lineup gonna be :banderas:

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Then fall flat with 3rd party support like Nintendo consoles have been for 20 years.

@Reinscarf is still mad about the Wii.
Why do we always say this without putting in the reasons WHY this happens?

This basically ignores everything.

People say the N64 didn't have much 3rd party, I say bullshyt. it did:

Activison (Tony Hawk, Spider-Man, Nightmare Creatures, Vigilante 8)
EA (Madden, FIFA, Nascar, NHL, NBA Live, Beetle Adventure Racing, 007: TWINE)
Ubisoft (Buck Bumble, All Star Tennis, Monaco Grand Prix, Rayman, Rocket, F1)
Take-Two (Silicon Valley, Earthworm Jim, Monster Truck Madness)
Ocean (MRC, Mission: Impossible, GT 64)
GT Interactive (Hexen, Duke Nukem)
Midway (Mortal Kombat, Cruis'n, Wayne Gretzky's, NFL Blitz, Rush, Body Harvest, Rampage, Gauntlet, R2R Boxing, Hydro Thunder, World Driver Championship)
Acclaim (Turok, Extreme-G, NBA Jam, Shadow Man, All-Star Baseball, Forsaken, South Park)
THQ (WCW/WWF, Road Rash)
LucasArts (Star Wars, Indiana Jones)
Infogrames (Worms, Indy Racing, V-Rally)
Crave (Gex, Fighting Force, Robotron, Battlezone)
Nintendo itself managed to publish some third-party owned IPs like C&C and Starcraft.
Post I found online. N64 was not seeing PS1 now but the N64 held it down.



Gamecube was really the start of the decline.

The shyt had mini discs which were smaller than the DVD standard discs and was selling like crap.
Missing shoulder button and no real 2nd analog stick. put 2+2 together and it's easy to see why games weren't coming to it. Had the GC been selling like the Xbox at least and had a regular disc format and supported controller, you think 3rd parties wouldn't go where money is to be made?

It had some 3rd party support but it started to go downhill.

Bring up the Wii and it sold A LOT but it was basically two Gamecube's duck taped together. shyt was weak next to the PS3/360 and had a gimmick for control. 3rd parties made shovelware for it or didn't put their big games on it because it couldn't even really run them.


Wii U repeated this problem but was worse. Still was weak next to the PS4/XB1 and the controller again was another gimmick that wasn't necessary at all. I think if the Wii U released in 2006 instead of the Wii but had Wii like sales we would've saw even GTA or RDR on the Wii U.


Now with the switch you can't sit here and say it's a gimmick. There's a traditional controller and the system itself can support some of engines running on PS4/XB1 like UE4 and whatnot.

It's supposed to be around XB1 levels of power. If it's selling good and the games can be ported over to it, it'll have good 3rd party support.

It's not rocket science why Nintendo seems to have bad 3rd party support. The NS is basically a regular system that's also portable. I think it'll be bigger than the Wii U. I'll say 60 million lifetime to be conservative.
 
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Why do we always say this without putting in the reasons WHY this happens?

This basically ignores everything.

People say the N64 didn't have much 3rd party, I say bullshyt. it did:


Post I found online. N64 was not seeing PS1 now but the N64 held it down.



Gamecube was really the start of the decline.

The shyt had mini discs which were smaller than the DVD standard discs and was selling like crap.
Missing shoulder button and no real 2nd analog stick. put 2+2 together and it's easy to see why games weren't coming to it. Had the GC been selling like the Xbox at least and had a regular disc format and supported controller, you think 3rd parties wouldn't go where money is to be made?

It had some 3rd party support but it started to go downhill.

Bring up the Wii and it sold A LOT but it was basically two Gamecube's duck taped together. shyt was weak next to the PS3/360 and had a gimmick for control. 3rd parties made shovelware for it or didn't put their big games on it because it couldn't even really run them.


Wii U repeated this problem but was worse. Still was weak next to the PS4/XB1 and the controller again was another gimmick that wasn't necessary at all. I think if the Wii U released in 2006 instead of the Wii but had Wii like sales we would've saw even GTA or RDR on the Wii U.


Now with the switch you can't sit here and say it's a gimmick. There's a traditional controller and the system itself can support some of engines running on PS4/XB1 like UE4 and whatnot. It's supposed to be around XB1 levels of power. If it's selling good and the games can be ported over to it, it'll have good 3rd party support. It's not rocket science why Nintendo seems to have bad 3rd party support.
It doesn't matter why. It matters that it's been the case. You are doing the same shyt all Nintendo fanboys do.

Ok even if I were to agree with you about the N64 and it started with the cube. It's still 15 years and it is Nintendo's fault.
 

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It doesn't matter why. It matters that it's been the case. You are doing the same shyt all Nintendo fanboys do.

Ok even if I were to agree with you about the N64 and it started with the cube. It's still 15 years and it is Nintendo's fault.
:dwillhuh:

Did I say it's not Nintendo's fault??

This isn't a cop out answer, this is WHY it's been the case. Anybody who could step back and look at the PS4 and even XB1 and see how things are going for them and why 3rd parties weren't on board and not see this is lying to themselves.

If Nintendo Switch in a couple of years has a 20-30 million install base and could run the same games as the XB1, there'd be no conversations about lack of 3rd party. They go where the money is.

You see it.

Activision were Microsoft's homeboys last gen, and now they're pretty much Sony's best friend because money is being made there.


To say that the reasons stated above is fanboyish is absurd, this is straight facts. I don't even get how you came to this point.
 

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Did I say it's not Nintendo's fault??

This isn't a cop out answer, this is WHY it's been the case. Anybody who could step back and look at the PS4 and even XB1 and see how things are going for them and why 3rd parties weren't on board and not see this is lying to themselves.

If Nintendo Switch in a couple of years has a 20-30 million install base and could run the same games as the XB1, there'd be no conversations about lack of 3rd party.

To say that the reasons stated above is fanboyish is absurd, this is straight facts. I don't even get how you came to this point.
The same "IF" has been spewed for almost 17 years already after the N64 started slipping.

Even the "successful" Wii got supported... with trash ass shovelware. Give it up already breh, we have all heard this story before.
 

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The same "IF" has been spewed for almost 17 years already after the N64 started slipping.

Even the "successful" Wii got supported... with trash ass shovelware. Give it up already breh, we have all heard this story before.
64 came out in 1996 so it's been 16 years, not 17.

You say the "successful" Wii got supported but leave out the glaring fact that it wasn't powerful enough to run the games on PS3/360.

Why are you leaving this part out
?

If the Wii was comparable to the 360 in terms of raw power and had a regular control method you don't think games like Fallout 3, GTA and whatnot would not be on there? In what world would a company not put their software out on a platform that had nearly double the install base of the other companies?? It's because they just couldn't because of

  1. The power(lack of)
  2. controller


You haven't heard this story before because you seem to be skipping the biggest point. You can't say this and then pretend hardware had NOTHING to do with it.
 

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64 came out in 1996 so it's been 16 years, not 17.

You say the "successful" Wii got supported but leave out the glaring fact that it wasn't powerful enough to run the games on PS3/360. Why are you leaving this part out. If the Wii was comparable to the 360 in terms of raw power and had a regular control method you don't think games like Fallout 3, GTA and whatnot would not be on there? In what world would a company not put their software out on a platform that had nearly double the install base of the other companies?? It's because they just couldn't because of

  1. The power(lack of)
  2. controller


You haven't heard this story before because you seem to be skipping the biggest point. You can't say this and then pretend hardware had NOTHING to do with it.
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I'm glad this thread will be around.
 

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I'm glad this thread will be around.
I'm glad you have no comeback with just a smiley.

Please do tell me o great liquid, Why did the Wii and Wii U not get good 3rd party support. You seem to know it all.

I'll take that response as you simply not having a good retort.

:usure:
 

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I'm glad you have no comeback with just a smiley.

Please do tell me o great liquid, Why did the Wii and Wii U not get good 3rd party support. You seem to know it all.

I'll take that response as you simply not having a good retort.

:usure:
The fact that you think a fukking Nvidia Tera is going to be the answer is all I need to know. Is it x86 or ARM? I haven't even bothered looking it up with the BS Nintendo has thrown out there since I was a teen.

Who is liquid?
 

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The fact that you think a fukking Nvidia Tera is going to be the answer is all I need to know. Is it x86 or ARM? I haven't even bothered looking it up with the BS Nintendo has thrown out there since I was a teen.

Who is liquid?
The fact that you just brought up random piece of hardware that I wasn't talking about nor said is the end all be all solution shows me that you have no offense meant, poor reading comprehension. :manny:



You're on a completely different page as I am as I notice your replies have usually nothing to do with my post. It's like you just hit quote and respond thinking about something else.

Stick to the PC thread breh.


Edit: Who's liquid? :wow:
 

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Plus I got Zelda WW HD and a couple of digital games.

It's not bullshyt. It's called business. Existing users will migrate over. New users will buy them.
Why are you caping so hard about this? Look, I choose not to buy them again (at least right now). I'm not saying they shouldn't remaster them, but personally I prefer not to buy into that shyt. You do what you want to do, nikka :camby:
 

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Why are you caping so hard about this? Look, I choose not to buy them again (at least right now). I'm not saying they shouldn't remaster them, but personally I prefer not to buy into that shyt. You do what you want to do, nikka :camby:
why are you so hostile?
You assumed I don't have it, I posted proof and now you talking about some other shyt. :snoop:

Y'all dudes are extremely cynical on here.
 
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