if you don't make beats with hardware and vinyl ur not a real producer

[HamAndEgger]

NO I.D. on Maschine



Ski on Maschine



DJ-Numark on Maschine



Khrysis on Maschine

 

[Truality]

And all thier new beats dont compare to the old hardware beats

hardware rules

it takes longer but thats what makes it work so well

also no sound can match an asr or an sp

shove ur emulator vsts up ur ass u wannabeez

 

[Big Mel]

i'm a SP-1200 owner. at one point i had two.

 

[HamAndEgger]

And all thier new beats dont compare to the old hardware beats

hardware rules

it takes longer but thats what makes it work so well

also no sound can match an asr or an sp

shove ur emulator vsts up ur ass u wannabeez

Explain the advantages with your standard SP1200 / MPC to that of what Maschine, Logic, and the new MPC Software can do, and don't mention anything about Analog to Digital because the hardware isn't what gives you the end sound as you gotta run your music (in the 21st Century) through a form of DAW and or Mixing console where you can achieve Analog anyway (as Producers have been doing for 10 yrs now).

 

[DrHackenbush]

the digital era has fukked up a lot of the record shops, going out to dig/find samples is a big part of the beatmaking process, almost as important as the actual beat making process itself. A lot of places went out of business because of this.
I dont think it matters what you use to make your beats, all that matter is the end result..Its nice when cats stick to using hardware because it keeps that essence alive and that hardware sound cant be replicated with software

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

This shyt sounds like an unreleased Fat Boys track

Gon' head on wit that shyt breh

 

[HamAndEgger]

the digital era has fukked up a lot of the record shops, going out to dig/find samples is a big part of the beatmaking process, almost as important as the actual beat making process itself. A lot of places went out of business because of this.
I dont think it matters what you use to make your beats, all that matter is the end result..Its nice when cats stick to using hardware because it keeps that essence alive and that hardware sound cant be replicated with software

That's completely a myth though and I'm someone who's used a MPC2000XL, ASR-10, MPC4000. The end product like you said is what matters and when you dump from a MPC or ASR-10 to any DAW (Pro Tools, Logic, Digital Performer, etc) automatically you're compensating for the sound that comes out of those machines hence why Mixing is so important. But even back in early 2002-2003 when Pro Tools was becoming the standard a lot of engineers were already dumping from Pro Tools to say a SSL console (older models) to get that analog sound (Dilated Peoples and Gangstarr were notorious for it). People today still do it, but I think a lot of times those who are stuck in the MPC / Hardware world think the sound is so heavily compromised when it really isn't. I myself still dig and what not, but if you're someone who's really trying to branch off and expand in today's world of Hip Hop (unless one views it as their hobby, which is fine) you gotta progress with the times. Like, how many people today are using an SP1200 to make beats and are successful producers? Dudes even in the 90s reached their limit with that (ie Pete Rock).

Put it this way, if you told me 10 years ago I can have a drum machine that I can import all my existing drum sounds, I can mix my sounds as they're playing, I can record sequences as the beat is playing without having to audition sounds, I can cut samples way easier, I can drag and drop directly into Pro Tools, I'd be on that sh*t with the quickness as would a Million other beat makers / producers.

 

[DrHackenbush]

That's completely a myth though and I'm someone who's used a MPC2000XL, ASR-10, MPC4000. The end product like you said is what matters and when you dump from a MPC or ASR-10 to any DAW (Pro Tools, Logic, Digital Performer, etc) automatically you're compensating for the sound that comes out of those machines hence why Mixing is so important. But even back in early 2002-2003 when Pro Tools was becoming the standard a lot of engineers were already dumping from Pro Tools to say a SSL console (older models) to get that analog sound (Dilated Peoples and Gangstarr were notorious for it). People today still do it, but I think a lot of times those who are stuck in the MPC / Hardware world think the sound is so heavily compromised when it really isn't. I myself still dig and what not, but if you're someone who's really trying to branch off and expand in today's world of Hip Hop (unless one views it as their hobby, which is fine) you gotta progress with the times. Like, how many people today are using an SP1200 to make beats and are successful producers? Dudes even in the 90s reached their limit with that (ie Pete Rock).

Put it this way, if you told me 10 years ago I can have a drum machine that I can import all my existing drum sounds, I can mix my sounds as they're playing, I can record sequences as the beat is playing without having to audition sounds, I can cut samples way easier, I can drag and drop directly into Pro Tools, I'd be on that sh*t with the quickness as would a Million other beat makers / producers.

No doubt man, I agree with you 100%. People used what they could back in the day so to restrict yourself when you have the option of a better way of working nowadays is silly. You can't argue with the convenience software brings..still nice to see cats using hardware though because thats probably where your influences stem from and the sound that made us all fall in love with this art in the first place

 

[Peter Parker]

I'd rather be a fake producer than be some corny ass try hard, and if nikkas like purrp and flylo are fake im amongst good company

 

[HamAndEgger]

No doubt man, I agree with you 100%. People used what they could back in the day so to restrict yourself when you have the option of a better way of working nowadays is silly. You can't argue with the convenience software brings..still nice to see cats using hardware though because thats probably where your influences stem from and the sound that made us all fall in love with this art in the first place

That's why I love Maschine because it marries both of those worlds. I use Maschine almost exactly how I used my 2000 (has swing option, full 16 levels, assigning pads is prob easier, chopping samples is easier but if you want you can duplicate samples just like dudes did with MPC or ASR). Before I moved from MPC to Maschine I made sure I could do exactly what I can do on a MPC and fukkin with it for just 2 weeks I found you can do much more yet not compromising how you approach beat making.

 

[Truality]

Convienence is wannabe shyt

Like mickey ds

Hardware is like grammas home cookin

the real shyt

Look at no id his shyt sounds thin like ur dikk now

im right ur wrong

u aint got the ear u wannabeez

im more hiphop than u

 

[Foxy]

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

i just make midi files

 

[RealestSinceKumbaya]

 

[HamAndEgger]

Convienence is wannabe shyt

Like mickey ds

Hardware is like grammas home cookin

the real shyt

Look at no id his shyt sounds thin like ur dikk now

im right ur wrong

u aint got the ear u wannabeez

im more hiphop than u

How about this...you post your MPC beats and I'll post ones from Maschine and we can have people here judge...I'm ready when you are