If you marry a woman without her completing a 1 year probationary period consisting of...

[awkwardblackgirl]

There is no difference between engaged and marriage except an expensive and irrelevant ceremony. If you're waiting on a magic switch to flip on and be like I'm married now, committment aint for you. I've seen nuff enaged broads cheat on their fiancees with this mindset.

How is there no difference between being married and not being married?

 

[Rawtid]

What logical man would marry a woman who doesn't sacrifice? This is how women lose so much. You go for that weak man who dances to your pace and demands nothing of you, so you label him a good man. Suddenly he decides he is done with you but dismisses you in a cowardly, weak way. Thats how you get in those "he started off good but he changed' scenarios. See but that true good man who demands of you is avoided because he is "unreasonable" aka is doing this his way with no pandering. Then that man ends up with a submissive woman(sometimes of a different culture which makes things interesting) and all is well. That man of course is false labeled a dog, sellout etc when a lot of these new women just suck at being women. They want to be rebellious man/woman hybrids(benefits of men and women but the work of neither) and it fails every time.


#factsoflife

I didn't say I wouldn't sacrifice at all. EVERYONE in a relationship is sacrificing. There are certain things I wouldn't sacrifice for a man I'm not married to that's all.

 

[BillCosbyAteMyHomework]

@innocentdevil @Desirous @BillCosbyAteMyHomework @raedawn07 @Phoenix_Knightly23

Ladies If your man doesn't handle his business correctly does your behaviour change towards him?

I've been blessed to have been with men that do handle their business correctly. If I'm thinking hypothetically though, It would be a conversation first. I won't lack on what I've been doing, but I also wouldn't allow myself to be walked over. I know that I don't have to worry about that though. My man is a MAN. He does what he says he will, and more. As do I.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Should a cheating woman expect to not get her ass whooped?

U would catch a case over a chick who shouldnt be in your life in the first place? Genius!

 

[Diondon]

You're bugging.

You'd fight WITH your homeboy while the dude at work you may stand and watch or call for help at the most. You'd buy your girl a birthday gift while the chick you're just kicking it with MAY get a phone call. Don't pretend like you've never customized your thoughts and behavior based on the relationship you had with a person and it was all totally done based on the rules you set yourself.

So if a man is my husband, I'm going to consider things I wouldn't if he were just my bf.

Damn, Ma. You're equating your fiancee to a co-worker. Ya'll broads are cold out here in these streets

 

[Nintendough]

Im saying. I want to know what these nikkas bring to the table to be making such strong demands.

Feminized Male Logic


I don't care if I worked at a 3rd world sweat shop making 5 cents a day, I'm still demanding respect. Hoes don't make the rules, hoes walk the plank. I'll Capt. Hook a harlot for any hint of disrespect, especially the kind aimed at manhood.

 

[Rawtid]

Wait, so your husband is an encumbrance? Again, why get married if you don't even want to be around the dude full time? If your privacy is more important that the man you're going to share a home with, share a bank account with, have children by and sleep in the same bed with, then why even go through the motions?

I'm not saying your privacy and alone time shouldn't be important but if its MORE important than your dude, then he aint your dude. He's just a walking dildo.

Peace

I'm not saying it's more important, I'm just saying I don't want to relinquish it for a guy I'm not married to. For a week? A month? Hell even 3 months if we're trying to see how living together would be, but permanently? Naaahh.

 

[Diondon]

How is there no difference between being married and not being married?

Well since you brought the legality aspect into it, an engagement for all intents and purposes is a promise to marry which denotes a binding contract

 

[Malik]

Nikka who said anything about how much you make

I specifically pointed out BUM niccas aka dusty niccas

Are you on the pipe nicca

I know exactly what you meant. Stand by your words. You're saying....if you a grown man with a sh*tty $10 an hour job, you look foolish tryna get a woman to submit to you. Even the other dude below you said: "Yea, if you want a woman to submit, you gotta be a boss financially".

So what, a broke nikka can't have a good steak dinner too nikka

 

[awkwardblackgirl]

Well since you brought the legality aspect into it, an engagement for all intents and purposes is a promise to marry which denotes a binding contract

You don't even believe that lol

 

[Nintendough]

U would catch a case over a chick who shouldnt be in your life in the first place? Genius!

Anna Mae bring shame to my name and Anna Mae gonna eat that cake. I don't give an inch out here.

 

[Diondon]

All jokes aside, an engagement is something I would take VERY seriously.

 

[LinusCaldwell]

he gets no respect from his gill, his fam, shyt the whole industry has him on their 'list'

@Kind Gentleman don't quit your job. there' nothing else out here for you.

 

[Rawtid]

Can we be realistic and acknowledge the fact that being dependent on someone and building a life/family/etc together is a burden? When you get married, you make the decision to take on those major responsibilities together forever. You don't make those vows when you're in a relationship, or what's the point of marriage??

They aren't worried about this, they are more concerned with having a live in maid and chef.

 

[devizelle]

Its just a cultural thing. Women are going to act how they were brought up most times. When i go to her families house i get the same treatment i get at home from my mother in law. I tried to RINSE a dish that i ate from and her mother was like *just leave it* *in Mandarin*

Are yall really trying to act like this isn't a thing in Black households as well? I don't think it's a "cultural" thing, I think it's a household/family standards thing.

All that shyt is gravy and I wouldn't say what I said without studying feminism. I've read the leading feminist theorist Bell Hooks' book and a lot of it makes sense because she's not pointing the finger at all men for being responsible for the oppression of women, but a systemic capitalist problem. But what feminist theorists believe is completely different than what these women actually practice. Even Bell Hooks herself admits that women have taken feminism and made it predominantly about shaming and hating men. It's not even about challenging a system that is still denying them the rights they want. The white male and the dehumanizing properties of capitalism are the culprits not the average joe. But who gets the brunt of the hatred and frustration? The average man. Me as a man of color is not responsible for a woman's oppression. My point which you spun into something completely different is that we don't deserve to be hated. And for the reasons stated above, feminism practiced by women today is the WOAT.

The white male and the dehumanizing properties of capitalism ARE promoted by the average joe. That's the whole premise of privilege. If you know about bell hooks then you should know how critical black feminists are of white feminism AND you should understand that bell hooks describes "the system" as the imperialist white supremacist capitalist patriarchy. Just like white people participate in white supremacy, men participate in the oppression of women.

Also, @Rawtid and @awkwardblackgirl I don't see the point in trying to convince a bunch of men who don't believe in marriage that it's special and that it makes sense not to move in together until you've made that type of commitment to each other. To them, marriage is just signing a paper and an expensive party--nothing changes. Yall are wasting your time lol.