I agree but he had the city on fire
Why the hell did you mention Kris Dunn? That nikka is nowhere near elite. Damn sure nowhere near the best player on the Bulls
If Your PG is the best player on your team, its over
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I agree but he had the city on fire
Why the hell did you mention Kris Dunn? That nikka is nowhere near elite. Damn sure nowhere near the best player on the Bulls
AlainLocke
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They are big deal though.
The positions haven't really changed. Players and pundits like to say that the PG position has changed from the guy that brings the ball up and passes to the open man, but that's a lie. Bob Cousy, the OG Point God, was the leading scorer of the Celtics and took the most shots a number of years. Walt Frazier has lead the team in scoring.
Ben Simmons plays PG, like an actual PG, but he's 6'10. He lays with an actual SG and guards PGs and switches and all that good shyt.
If Ben Simmons played PF, the entire team dynamic changes because he can't shoot for shyt. He'll play closer to the basket. Teams will not be able to double Embiid so hard.
Walt Frazier won a ring as the best player, I forgot about him.
Correlation =\= Causation ....this is something you should have learned in highschool
Breh do I have to spell it out for you?
Only 3 point guards have actually led their teams to rings in 39 years. Actually only 2 cause Magic was not the number 1 option on those Showtime teams.
What is so hard for you to grasp? What context changes 40 years of evidence?
Traditionally, wings or big men carry teams to rings. That's another fact.
Before Steph, you'd have to go back 2003 with JKidd to find another pg who even came close. That was 16 years ago.
Telling me that Jordan won 6 titles in 8 years doesnt PROVE that a C or a PG lead team has a less likely chance of winning than a team lead by a SG ..it only higlights that Michael Jordan was a fukking excellent basketball player
he said pg specifically though,
jordan and kobe are 6'6 that's farther removed from the average pg height then they are from the average sf(for reference lebron is 6'8). they are wings.
he gave you the pg's who have been on that level that won champiosnhips and outta the league's history it's not much
He not lying bruh. Russ, Kyrie, Dame, Kris Dunn, Chris Paul, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd. The players he listed outside of Magic are exceptions, not the rule
The fukk you mention Zo for?Lakers didn't draft him to be the #1 guy
He said Frank Ntilikina too
That nikka gotta be sippin on a bottle
The pgs job is to set up the offense and their teammates.
They arent doing that anymore so what's the point of the pg?
To demand multiple picks and Jack up jumpers
You could literally trot a random ball handling big in place of your pg(outside of gs) and have success.
Philly had no reason going 7 with Toronto. But with Simmons running point forward they won the boards enough to stay in the series.
And Simmons doesn't even shoot
#nomoremidgets
They arent doing that anymore so what's the point of the pg?
To demand multiple picks and Jack up jumpers
You could literally trot a random ball handling big in place of your pg(outside of gs) and have success.
Philly had no reason going 7 with Toronto. But with Simmons running point forward they won the boards enough to stay in the series.
And Simmons doesn't even shoot
#nomoremidgets
he said pg specifically though,
jordan and kobe are 6'6 that's farther removed from the average pg height then they are from the average sf(for reference lebron is 6'8). they are wings.
he gave you the pg's who have been on that level that won champiosnhips and outta the league's history it's not much
god bless your little heart brother
IsThatBrothaMouzone?
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If you have a great and transcendent SG/SF or C, you can put a solid (but not spectacular) team around them and win a ring. Dirk, Duncan, Wade, Hakeem etc., are examples of players that took slightly above average teams that might win 40 games without them, and push them over the top.
A PG can be the best player, but they need a super-team around them for it to work. Curry would not carry the '94 Rockets, '06 Heat or '11 Mavericks to a title. However if you put him on a strong team that can accentuate his strengths and mitigate his weaknesses, he's great enough as a player to lead you to a ring.
SG/SF's and C's that lead teams to titles are usually prolific scorers that may or may not be good defenders. PG's are basically the QB's, so not only do they have to distribute the ball and set things up, they'd need to be great scorers that can work within the offense and decent defenders. Few PG's have that broad of a skill-set.
Of course the term "PG" is a bit misleading. LeBron has pretty much always operated like a PG, even though he's not in the traditional sense. I think what we all mean is a floor general that's 6'4" or shorter and generally "looks" the part of a PG (Chris Paul, Steve Nash, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, John Stockton etc.).
A PG can be the best player, but they need a super-team around them for it to work. Curry would not carry the '94 Rockets, '06 Heat or '11 Mavericks to a title. However if you put him on a strong team that can accentuate his strengths and mitigate his weaknesses, he's great enough as a player to lead you to a ring.
SG/SF's and C's that lead teams to titles are usually prolific scorers that may or may not be good defenders. PG's are basically the QB's, so not only do they have to distribute the ball and set things up, they'd need to be great scorers that can work within the offense and decent defenders. Few PG's have that broad of a skill-set.
Of course the term "PG" is a bit misleading. LeBron has pretty much always operated like a PG, even though he's not in the traditional sense. I think what we all mean is a floor general that's 6'4" or shorter and generally "looks" the part of a PG (Chris Paul, Steve Nash, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, John Stockton etc.).
stepbackj34spud
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If you are a real basketball fan you already know this.
you gotta defend what your saying.
as long as the leauge has been in existence (55+ years) is his assertion in the op wrong or not?
what pg other then the names stated have been the number 1 on a championship squad?