If You're the Breadwinner...

[JQ Legend]

men get props because being a male hoe is harder than a woman.

Not even women respect hoes

You gotta be attractive, fit, well off in your career, mouth piece, etc. It takes considerable effort to be a desirable man.

A woman just has to exist. It's human nature to not respect things that come easy to people.

It's like comparing someone who came from a single parent household in a poor neighborhood, worked two jobs to put themself through law school and become a lawyer vs someone whose daddy owns the law firm, put them through school and gave them a job. Off rip you're going to respect the one who put in all the work. And those are few and far between

Ayoooo breh I didn’t even see this post till after I made mine

Great minds think alike

 

[JQ Legend]

Don't let a feminine thinking man lead you wrong.

Wait that’s a man typing that?

 

[JQ Legend]

Who cares what somebody else respects?this logic only works if you care what people think.

And in this era, people don’t give a fukk so the double standards are null and void, especially if you are going to act the same way as soon as you become like the very thing you claim to dislike.

It’s like a poor person hating conservatives and then voting for Trump when they make money. Nobody cares about their struggle. It’s irrelevant. What is relevant is their hypocrisy because they just prove that they are no better than hoes they shamed when their dikks were dry. All it took was a lil opportunity.

These discussions tend to make even the logical thinkers throw out all logic to stay loyal to their sex.

In this era no one cares what others think?

You mean this era where people are all over SM begging for attention and approval from total strangers they won’t ever meet?

The era where regular everyday people think they’re semi celebrities or make their best effort to become one?

There has prolly not ever been an era where people cared more about what people think than now.

Notice how there are men in this thread actually defending women but just about all of the woman are just “ I didn’t think about it like that, you’re so right” whenever someone attempts to make a point defending female promiscuity.

 

[JQ Legend]

The initial premise that you build your logic on is incorrect.

Your entire premise seems to equate men and women. To you, men and women are equal when that could be the furthest thing from the truth.

You're saying I'm using semantics to define options but no, I'm not.

I'll put it to you a different way. Women choose men. Women are the gatekeepers.

Why? Because if left to men, we would choose all of yall. Women are the chaste ones, the ones who say no 9 times out of 10.

You seem to think that because you could walk out your front door right now in a skin tight thigh high skirt that shows off your panties if you bend a little, and in a low cut blouse with your breasts hanging out, that because every man you encounter would want to have sex with you, that that means you have "options".

You're looking at it completely wrong. You choose. True enough. You would choose which out of the 100 men that you see that you want, but that's not options.

For the sheer fact that most women aren't seeking sex exclusively. Yall are seeking relationships or long term entanglements while 99 out of those 100 men you see would smash you and dash you.

How many men do you know that TRULY want to be in a relationship with you and aint cappin just to get you out your panties?

THOSE are your options. And I promise you, that number isn't gonna be anywhere close to the number of men that want to have sex with you.

Going back to what I originally said about your initial premise about men and women being equal... its wrong.

Because you're failing to take into account that men and women want very different things.

We call the number of women that want to sex us, our options.

Why? Because that's what we want.

Women would be better off calling the number of men who want relationships with you, your options.

Because that's what yall want.

I tried to rep but I already repped u yesterday

 

[Apollo Creed]

If a woman prioritizes faithfulness, she should vet any future husband carefully.

If she's in circles with hvm, she should be able to find one who suits her needs.

You know before you get married if your man is a cheater, let's not play these games, ladies.

most these women are not in these networks hence why they spend their time with these dumb ass threads or calling into youtubers.

these women are watching this stuff from the outside and creating these fantasy lifestyles in their mind and are totally oblivious to the fukkery in these worlds. Hence why the convo is always around money and nothing about morals and legacy.

 

[JQ Legend]

It’s not claiming to understand men or a desire to not want to understand them. I’m simply dismissive of anyone who thinks I’m beneath them. That transcends gender. Someone who doesn’t respect me as an equal doesn’t deserve my regard or analysis. In fact, I would encourage people to never entertain those who view you like that in a serious way. There’s not a lot to talk about if a common baseline of mutual respect can’t be established.

Spoiler: History tangent

I could argue that historically, prior to the advent of agriculture, most soceties were actually egalitarian. The destruction of the feminine divine in Western culture and its replacement with homosexual religious cults (men worshiping only male deities) that have been perverted into male-oriented rule is an open secret amongst a lot of evolutionary biologists, and historians, and anthropologists in spite of what people have been led to believe but I’m not gonna get into that b/c we not ready.
Meanwhile earliest societies were egalitarian in nature, women were waaaay more powerful b/c cooperation was necessary for survival instead of ego. Two main things they’ve all but erased from the tapestry of history: black people and women.

I’ll just leave this here as something to think about before we throw around ideas of who is “brainwashed”
Early men and women were equal, say scientists
Geez, you gon drag me back into my anthropology days...people are slowly learning that a lotta shyt we were commonly led to believe aint what it seems.

That part in the spoiler was interesting

But I have yet to see a man in this thread say women are beneath men. 2 things not being equal doesn’t mean one is superior or inferior for that matter. An Apple is not equal to an orange but one is not above or beneath the other. You can say the same about just about any other 2 objects.

And Neo wasn’t even defending men cheating, he even said several times he doesn’t agree with KS. He’s explaining why women promiscuity is not seen the same as male promiscuity. If anything he’s more so comparing single males to single females.

And no one is saying men with options are promiscuous because they have no choice due to their options. There are men with a lot of options who choose not to exercise them. He might have women throwing it at him but choose to stay with one. Even in those cases he’d be seen as more desirable than the man who rarely get laid or settles for the first woman that comes his way because women simply don’t want him. Even tho in all those scenarios they’re smashing the same number of women. A woman who got dudes trying to wife her up everywhere she goes will be seen as higher value than one who has a bunch of men who just want to smash.

 

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That part in the spoiler was interesting

But I have yet to see a man in this thread say women are beneath men. 2 things not being equal doesn’t mean one is superior or inferior for that matter. An Apple is not equal to an orange but one is not above or beneath the other. You can say the same about just about any other 2 objects.

And Neo wasn’t even defending men cheating, he even said several times he doesn’t agree with KS. He’s explaining why women promiscuity is not seen the same as male promiscuity. If anything he’s more so comparing single males to single females.

And no one is saying men with options are promiscuous because they have no choice due to their options. There are men with a lot of options who choose not to exercise them. He might have women throwing it at him but choose to stay with one. Even in those cases he’d be seen as more desirable than the man who rarely get laid or settles for the first woman that comes his way because women simply don’t want him. Even tho in all those scenarios they’re smashing the same number of women. A woman who got dudes trying to wife her up everywhere she goes will be seen as higher value than one who has a bunch of men who just want to smash.

While your analogy is one I’ve often used myself, most men who espouse negative believes about women don’t say the same. The poster I referred to mentioned he felt that women weren’t “on par” with men, which indicates a value judgement. If we were simply evaluating gender differences that’s a totally different tone instead of assigning arbitrary value to one side and demonizing the other or shaming them if they don’t act the way THEY think apples should act in spite of them being oranges themselves.

The latter attitude undergirds this conversation particularly when it comes to being the breadwinner and the idea that primary financial contribution entitles that person to the right to cheat. As for the differences between why men and women cheat, I honestly dont think they matter. It’s interesting to observe but at the end of the day, as I mentioned in several posts, you will either make a commitment and keep your word, or break it. It’s a pretty simple concept. And if you don’t have the self control to do so, you aren’t marriage material regardless of what the market says about your “value”.

 

[JQ Legend]

Men don't cheat. Case closed.


Keep your hands on the vehicle ma'am.

He handled that way better than I thought he would have

She wasn’t bad looking in the face but damn did she have some pancakes

 

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These discussions tend to make even the logical thinkers throw out all logic to stay loyal to their sex.

In this era no one cares what others think?

You mean this era where people are all over SM begging for attention and approval from total strangers they won’t ever meet?

The era where regular everyday people think they’re semi celebrities or make their best effort to become one?

There has prolly not ever been an era where people cared more about what people think than now.

Notice how there are men in this thread actually defending women but just about all of the woman are just “ I didn’t think about it like that, you’re so right” whenever someone attempts to make a point defending female promiscuity.

What I’m saying is that many are no longer starting to care. That’s why shaming is losing ground in society. Think about what has become permissible today, vs decades ago.

 

[JQ Legend]

For us it’s not primarily about the sex. It’s about the experience and quality of the sex rather than the quantity as you indicated for men. Tons of women in monogamous relationships aren’t even orgasming. So she might not want to lose the family dynamic with her husband but she needs sexual and emotional satisfaction too. I think too many people misunderstand female sexuality. Even women themselves. Layers of shame, virgin/whore complex and men literally telling us what we want based on how they want us to be vs how we actually are, doesn’t really help.

I notice you say this a lot. Implying most women in monogamous relationships aren’t sexually satisfied. But can easily have mind blowing sex with someone on the side.

Why not just get in a monogamous relationship with the man who actually does satisfy you? You make the two seem mutually exclusive. And that the men you are most satisfied by doesn’t want you for anything beyond sex. So it’s almost as if you find yourself more turned on by men who don’t want to actually be with you and turned off by the men who do.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I tried to rep but I already repped u yesterday

These women will never understand men because they keep trying to analyze our behavior through a woman's lens.

At least when it comes to us trying to understand them, the first thing we acknowledge is that women are different from men so what goes through her head isn't what goes through ours.

They refuse to even consider the possibility that men just might think differently and have different motivators than women do


It's incredible. I had to stop talking to them due to the lack of even basic common sense that they have regarding this issue.

Chic really got upset with me because I told her that men and women are not equal, nor do we think alike

If you cant acknowledge that basic fact, how are we supposed to ever come to any understanding on more complicated facts?

 

[KidJSoul]

If you're a rich dude that's married, but want to fukk other hoes...
Just get in good shape and proposition your wife for a threesome.

Chances are, she'll get turned on watching you fukk that other girl and you can go from there

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

While your analogy is one I’ve often used myself, most men who espouse negative believes about women don’t say the same. The poster I referred to mentioned he felt that women weren’t “on par” with men, which indicates a value judgement.

@JQ Legend it's the lies that got to me.

Women are so used to not having fact based conversations and reinventing what was said in their head that they can't help but do it in this very thread.

I never once said women are "not on par" with men.

The point that I made is exactly what you said breh and I'm glad you got it.

This is why I excused myself from this thread the other day.

I had enough of the lies, and the bad faith arguments.

This is why I don't debate with women offline or even online because the logic always tends to go off the rails somewhere. At some point they stop listening to what you're saying and start inserting their own viewpoints to start arguing with themselves as they make you a straw man.

Only woman I MIGHT have a debate with is my woman. All this other stuff you can have it. I will see myself out of here once again

 

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I notice you say this a lot. Implying most women in monogamous relationships aren’t sexually satisfied. But can easily have mind blowing sex with someone on the side.

Why not just get in a monogamous relationship with the man who actually does satisfy you? You make the two seem mutually exclusive. And that the men you are most satisfied by doesn’t want you for anything beyond sex. So it’s almost as if you find yourself more turned on by men who don’t want to actually be with you and turned off by the men who do.

First off I never implied most, but some and that’s statistically accurate. And historically accurate as well given that female sexual pleasure has never been given that many fukks, particularly in marriage because marriage in the past was less about sexual pleasure/love/romance, and more about business. That’s another reason why men kept mistresses, aside from just wanting variety, and women had sides discretely as well.

For some people, they find it difficult to communicate with their partners to fine-tune their sex lives. A lot of people aren’t receptive to the idea of needing to do anything beyond their standard sex moves to please their partners out of ego. Moreover, the slut/virgin psychological pathology negatively impacts a LOT of couples because it renders women incapable of showing how freaky they are with their husbands out of fear of being judged. Meanwhile, some men don’t feel comfortable expressing all of their freaky needs with their wives. So what happens in these cases, either party might cheat with others they feel sexually comfortable with.

IMO all of this is actually something that could be worked through with some honest discussion but shame, rigid religious standards, insecurities, ego, cowardice can get in the way.

Regardless, I bring these truths up about female sexuality because usually men are trying to use their sex drive or desire for more as an excuse to cheat, while ignoring how women can have the same dissatisfaction sexually in a monogamous relationship.Especially when society pushes women to forgo physical attraction to focus on other qualities in a mate.

 

[Rawtid]

Men and women are different, but definitely “equal” as it pertains to most current relationships. Men should certainly scrap that non equal mentality, especially when some can’t function without the assistance of their partner.