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Bc one thing has nothing to do with the other.

"Hvm"= class markers + community standing, which, depending on your community, may or may not be predicated on 'morals', however that community defines them.

I disagree. You’re worthless without morals, I don’t care how much money you have.
 

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I believe in the Bible and I believe that verse is accurate, but even then, it's not saying that women are unequal to men.

I give my woman equality in the things that she's equal to or better than me in. For example, I'm not even going to try to take the lead on nurturing of my future children. I would look to her for that because I already know that's something that she's gonna be better than me on. But she looks to me for leadership in the things that she knows that I'm better at than she is.

She looks to me for advice and for guidance on issues. And with that being said, sometimes I bounce things off of her to get her feedback. But she brings her issues to me way more than I bring any issues to her.

But for people in this thread to make a blanket on it's face argument that "men are equal to women", that's dishonest at best and an outright lie at worst. :aicmon:

Folks saying that it's an insult to say that men and women ain't equal. Well tell you what... next time you laying in the bed with your man and y'all hear a loud noise outside, instead of you waking him up and expecting him to go out there and check on it, you let him lay in bed and YOU go check on it. :camby:

But of course, you wouldn't do that because you know that men and women aren't equal when it comes to providing protection.:ufdup:

And even if you say "we'll go together!:damn:"

Well tell you what, instead of you standing behind him and letting him face the oncoming threat first, let him stand behind you and YOU face the threat first. :ufdup:

Since we're so equal in everything.

Y'all betta get outta here with that mickey mouse white women feminist BS :camby:


People just repeating things they've heard about relationships.. The more men and woman are honest about themselves, and who they are. This equality shyt will fade away..

Like this Kevin Samuels wave.. :russ:

Kevin Samuels is Kevin Samuels.. He does what works for HIM..
 

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I disagree. You’re worthless without morals, I don’t care how much money you have.

I wish that was the way society looked at it.

There isn't a single Billionaire that hasn't done some detestable shxt for that paper.

This is the real golden rule: He who has the gold makes the rules. And the reason for that is because everyone wants the gold.

And most are willing to compromise their morality for it.

This has been true since the dawn of time.
 
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Bc one thing has nothing to do with the other.

"Hvm"= class markers + community standing, which, depending on your community, may or may not be predicated on 'morals', however that community defines them.




People want to look at this issue through the lens of THEIR upbringing, while not even taking time to acknowledge that in some societies, a man going to get with another woman isn't even considered cheating.

It's not considered immoral. It's considered immoral in THIS society but we are not the only society that exists.
 

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First off I never implied most, but some and that’s statistically accurate. And historically accurate as well given that female sexual pleasure has never been given that many fukks, particularly in marriage because marriage in the past was less about sexual pleasure/love/romance, and more about business. That’s another reason why men kept mistresses, aside from just wanting variety, and women had sides discretely as well.

For some people, they find it difficult to communicate with their partners to fine-tune their sex lives. A lot of people aren’t receptive to the idea of needing to do anything beyond their standard sex moves to please their partners out of ego. Moreover, the slut/virgin psychological pathology negatively impacts a LOT of couples because it renders women incapable of showing how freaky they are with their husbands out of fear of being judged. Meanwhile, some men don’t feel comfortable expressing all of their freaky needs with their wives. So what happens in these cases, either party might cheat with others they feel sexually comfortable with.

IMO all of this is actually something that could be worked through with some honest discussion but shame, rigid religious standards, insecurities, ego, cowardice can get in the way.

Regardless, I bring these truths up about female sexuality because usually men are trying to use their sex drive or desire for more as an excuse to cheat, while ignoring how women can have the same dissatisfaction sexually in a monogamous relationship.:yeshrug:Especially when society pushes women to forgo physical attraction to focus on other qualities in a mate.


Expound on the bold some more because the "coli brehs" love a freak, but dont want a woman with more than two bodies. :mjlol:
 

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oh my GOD. Y'all folks just looking for something to argue about :mjlol:



My nicca, if we play different roles, then we are NOT equal to each other in those various roles.

I'm not equal to a woman when it comes to the nurturing of children. That's something that women got down pat naturally.

A woman is not equal to me when it comes to having that fathering steady hand required for guidance.

Like the breh above said, an apple ain't equal to an orange in being an orange. You can't be this obtuse :mjlol: well I take that back, yes you can. :gucci:

We aren't "arguing", it's a difference of opinion. I accept and understand what you're saying, I just don't agree and it's fine. No one is wrong, so save your insults.

Men and women are naturally...biologically different, but are very much "equal" as human beings capable of making a relationship function to maximum capacity.

LOL not all women are better or even good at nurturing, the same way not all men are good at "leadership". Some qualities are learned and obtained via experience. Your thinking is rooted in trite, gender role, "traditional" crap ideology and not any conversation or actual experience you've had with your woman.
 
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Men and women are different, but definitely “equal” as it pertains to most current relationships. Men should certainly scrap that non equal mentality, especially when some can’t function without the assistance of their partner.

2 = 2

Is 2 any different than 2? :jbhmm:

2 things cannot be different and equal at the same time.
 

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So you didn’t imply that men and women aren’t equal? Because that’s all I’m responding too when you mentioned
The apples and oranges analogy used by the other poster is different from what you expressed in bold. Saying something is different isn’t the same as saying it isn’t equal.

Two different items can be placed on a scale to measure and have the same mass or value.

But saying someone isn’t equal to someone else is disrespectful.:yeshrug:

Damn Books I thought we was cool, u just gone “the other poster” me like that? :gucci:

And 2 different items on the same scale is only equal in weight but unequal in everything else so no they are not equal. A man and woman are equally human but are not equal in any other way. And no one here was dehumanizing women. There is nothing disrespectful about saying 2 things are not equal. Not being equal does not equate to superiority of one over the other.

When is the last time you went on a first date and paid for the entire date? :jbhmm:

How often does that happen vs the man paying for the whole date? :jbhmm:

How often do you or any other woman in this thread approach a man you find attractive vs hoping he approaches you? :jbhmm:

Men with jobs/careers have no problem dating a woman who brings way less to the table. How many of you career women in this thread will date a man who makes 1/4 of what you make? :jbhmm:
 

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X does not ever equal Y tho.

A SET of coordinates (x,y), which I what I meant not x=y so sorry about that, is needed to get to an exact position. Both are equally NEEDED to get to a point, although the values may differ. Mfs trying to function off one coordinate and wonder why they lost.
 

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A SET of coordinates (x,y), which I what I meant not x=y so sorry about that, is needed to get to an exact position. Both are equally NEEDED to get to a point, although the values may differ. Mfs trying to function off one coordinate and wonder why they lost.

So simple. Yet people's insecurities and selfishness, blind them to this fact..

Rep on the way. :ehh:
 

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A SET of coordinates (x,y), which I what I meant not x=y so sorry about that, is needed to get to an exact position. Both are equally NEEDED to get to a point, although the values may differ. Mfs trying to function off one coordinate and wonder why they lost.

Wouldn’t x have to behave differently than y to get to that position?? :jbhmm:

No one has denied men and women working together is the ideal. But women behaving equally to men will only lead to chaos. Same if men behave like women. X and Y have their own individual roles and are not equal in any way. One is not greater than the other, they just have different roles and without either playing those roles, there is no destination.

Thanks for that example btw :mjgrin:
 

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Wouldn’t x have to behave differently than y to get to that position?? :jbhmm:

No one has denied men and women working together is the ideal. But women behaving equally to men will only lead to chaos. Same if men behave like women. X and Y have their own individual roles and are not equal in any way. One is not greater than the other, they just have different roles and without either playing those roles, there is no destination.

Thanks for that example btw :mjgrin:

I think he's saying they're equally needed. Even though they're not the same..
 
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