I'm REALLY getting annoyed with the left confusing IMMIGRANTS with ILLEGAL ALIENS

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people are gonna move regardless. Especially if you continue to cape for capitalism and the profit/deficit game that leads to these issues. But the truth is our intervention/interference across the continent has left the vast majority in a huge deficit.

You can't keep caping for the current system and then placing band aids on the results or blame on the victims. This thought process has historically lead to genocide when the problems have spiralled out of control

of course Mexico had problems before. Problems we've exploited for our own benefit. Like how NAFTA caused an already economically weaker Mexico's farmers to compete with cheaper products from the US and Canada. We can keep strolling back through the timeline if you really wanna play this game.

You mention drug problem, but then now focus on NAFTA. One word...maquiladora

Problems exploited or created? USA pointed a missile to Mexico, inorder to force them to sign NAFTA and then sacrificed its manufacturing industry to Mexico's benefit, just for being good neighbors

The way this convo has skewed from illegal immigration to misleading info and innuendos of USA causing its own border problem proves the OP's point
 

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Lets stick to discussing why people keep classifying all immigrants together.

They're not, and legal immigrants deserve way more respect than what some the leading voices on the left, give them.

It annoys me to no end to hear some wonky actor or musician talking about "trump being against immigrants"

He's not.

Its ok to dislike Trump. I definitely do. But don't lie and make it easier for him.

Nap all your posts here are like we need to just be a little racist

Nap I can't wait until you join the Republican Party :salute:







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I don't see what stops him from supporting mitt Romney types
 

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You mention drug problem, but then now focus on NAFTA. One word...maquiladora

Problems exploited or created? USA pointed a missile to Mexico, inorder to force them to sign NAFTA and then sacrificed its manufacturing industry to Mexico's benefit, just for being good neighbors

The way this convo has skewed from illegal immigration to misleading info and innuendos of USA causing its own border problem proves the OP's point
they can't even stay on topic. You got @Swavy Karl Marx in here trolling his ass off too.
 

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Yeah, this is totally fair. That language was ugly and overboard and statistically wrong, and he deserves to be criticized for it, but the dominant narrative coming out is that Trump hates Latinos (and somehow even African-Americans) because of that statement. That seems like a spurious claim to me. There are Latino-Americans who immigrated legally, so to lump all Latinos into the illegal immigrant category is iffy to me. If I was a Latino-American citizen of legal standing, what would I have to fear from Trump's immigration policy?

Well, I'm sure the proposed mass "deportation force" (Trump's words, not mine) would definitely do their due diligence and not harass me just because I "look" like an illegal immigrant. I too trust the white man to be fair, just, and humane in deporting 11 million people :troll:

My family, friends, coworkers, and community members who I interact with on a daily basis and form an important fabric of my life would be deported, but hey, why would I fear that, I'll make new, white friends at Trump rallies. They really love me :troll:

Trump moving the Overton window to make it acceptable to call people who look like me rapists, murderers, and drug dealers is just a MINOR criticism that won't affect my life AT ALL. Politicians have ZERO pull in affecting political climate or in mobilizing the worst in people. But because NONE of Trump's supporters are white nationalists, I have NOTHING to fear :troll:
 

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Nap all your posts here are like we need to just be a little racist



I don't see what stops him from supporting mitt Romney types
With news coming out that Trump is Kremlin backed I don't get how he can't see that closing the boarders is Russia's plot to take over our economy while we also leave NATO countries defenseless as we exit. :sas1:
 

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With news coming out that Trump is Kremlin backed I don't get how he can't see that closing the boarders is Russia's plot to take over our economy while we also leave NATO countries defenseless as we exit. :sas1:

Lmao breh I was expecting him to start a thread on that shyt today
 

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Well, I'm sure the proposed mass "deportation force" (Trump's words, not mine) would definitely do their due diligence and not harass me just because I "look" like an illegal immigrant. I too trust the white man to be fair, just, and humane in deporting 11 million people :troll:

My family, friends, coworkers, and community members who I interact with on a daily basis and form an important fabric of my life would be deported, but hey, why would I fear that, I'll make new, white friends at Trump rallies. They really love me :troll:

Trump moving the Overton window to make it acceptable to call people who look like me rapists, murderers, and drug dealers is just a MINOR criticism that won't affect my life AT ALL. Politicians have ZERO pull in affecting political climate or in mobilizing the worst in people. But because NONE of Trump's supporters are white nationalists, I have NOTHING to fear :troll:
Look, i'm not agreeing with Trump...but the left does itself no favors and pretends people can't see through that shyt when they start labeling all immigrants under the umbrella.

I take it seriously. My parents and most of their friends are LEGAL immigrants and they find that shyt offensive as well.
 
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legal immigration is more damaging to blacks than illegal immigration because instead of improving the quality of education they say fukk it ya'll ain't worth shyt so we'll import people to legally do the jobs that we don't think you all are capable of.
 

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Look, i'm not agreeing with Trump...but the left does itself no favors and pretends people can't see through that shyt when they start labeling all immigrants under the umbrella.

I take it seriously. My parents and most of their friends are LEGAL immigrants and they find that shyt offensive as well.

Nap, I generally agree with all your points on illegal immigration. I'm a legal immigrant and people "cutting the line" is such bullshyt in my eyes. There are quota systems in place for a reason. We need to be able to support and assimilate new immigrants and with undocumented persons thats impossible to do. The way some people in this country lump illegal and legal immigrants into the same category is disgusting. People care more about being politically correct than looking out for their interests and their liberty. I'm 100% for legal immigration. I'm 100% against illegal immigration. It took my family 3-5 years to get the OK to come over here. Plenty of harmful shyt could have happened during that waiting period. Thats life. I believe in nation-states and borders are defined. If you want to cross over into our border, you play by our rules. Its that simple and millions of legal immigrants were able to fulfill their obligations to becoming citizens so illegals should not be exempt.
 

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legal immigration is more damaging to blacks than illegal immigration because instead of improving the quality of education they say fukk it ya'll ain't worth shyt so we'll import people to legally do the jobs that we don't think you all are capable of.
Thats what regulation is for. If you don't have a knob on the faucet, the more vocal dems will just start cutting the hose then blame you for having a well in the first place :snoop:
 
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