I'm Sorry - Randy Moss is the best I have ever seen, and it's not close.

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Best receiver ever...no...

Most naturally gifted receiver ever...highly likely...

Moss could probably step on a team right now and put up a 65/800/6 season like it's nothing...
 

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Most dominant WR talent I'd ever seen. Jerry had a better career.

If Moss had played with a HOF like Brady his entire career, his numbers would be ridiculous.

I rock with this statement.

I was also wrong and sniffing coke (not really) when I said that "It wasn't even close". Sorry for that haha!

I cannot stand slow motion video in sports. When you want to gauge talent, you got to look at it life action.

This is flabby Moss btw



And let me not disrespect the GAWD. Randy is the best I have seen do it, but Rice is the greatest FB player ever, because being the greatest ever in anything has more to do with talent and skill, and more with leadership and work ethic. Still, Randy is the best WR and maybe most dominant I think we will ever see...

 

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Moss is like the Shaq of WRs. GOAT talent. GOATish, :whoo:, :damn:, :ooh: moments and seasons but overall career-wise fell short. One thing I will say on his behalf is that it would have been interesting to see him play with QBs on the level of Young and Montana for the majority of his career like Rice. Him and Brady for a decade would've been :wow:. Moss is done now and was flabby a couple years ago while Rice at the same age was still putting up Pro Bowl seasons...coming off a torn ACL.
 

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Read the thread title and couldn't stop laughing. First of all, Rice was miles ahead. And TO was better too. Then I'll give you Randy. Did Randy have more talent? Of course. But the sad thing is he didn't care enough to maximize that talent. TO and Jerry worked harder than anyone on the field.

The way folk sleep on Jerry is ridiculous. Guess he wasn't "brash" enough.

No one can ever make a legit case as to why Randy is ahead of Rice or even TO.
 

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Read the thread title and couldn't stop laughing. First of all, Rice was miles ahead. And TO was better too. Then I'll give you Randy. Did Randy have more talent? Of course. But the sad thing is he didn't care enough to maximize that talent. TO and Jerry worked harder than anyone on the field.

The way folk sleep on Jerry is ridiculous. Guess he wasn't "brash" enough.

No one can ever make a legit case as to why Randy is ahead of Rice or even TO.

Man get real. Who do you see ever on a professional level EVER put TO in front of Randy??????
 

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Read the thread title and couldn't stop laughing. First of all, Rice was miles ahead. And TO was better too. Then I'll give you Randy. Did Randy have more talent? Of course. But the sad thing is he didn't care enough to maximize that talent. TO and Jerry worked harder than anyone on the field.

The way folk sleep on Jerry is ridiculous. Guess he wasn't "brash" enough.

No one can ever make a legit case as to why Randy is ahead of Rice or even TO.

1. Rice





2. EL Dorado
3. Randy

I get Rice obviously but what exactly is the case for TO being better than Moss? Their stats are basically identical and Moss had better hands and was clearly more impactful.
 

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I get Rice obviously but what exactly is the case for TO being better than Moss? Their stats are basically identical and Moss had better hands and was clearly more impactful.

More impactful? he was a game breaker no doubt but TO could take those 5 yard slants and hit you for 80 yard strikes. He could also beat you across the middle, deep, and was a solid blocker. TO made Jeff Garcia an all pro/ pro bowl QB.

I'll give you his drops, but that isn't as bad as moss taking plays/ games off and not playing to his potential on every snap/
 

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No. 80 from the Bay was the GOAT to a 90s kid:yeshrug:

...now, from late 90s into the 00s, Moss is the GOAT; and now Megatron got next:ooh:
 

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More impactful? he was a game breaker no doubt but TO could take those 5 yard slants and hit you for 80 yard strikes. He could also beat you across the middle, deep, and was a solid blocker. TO made Jeff Garcia an all pro/ pro bowl QB.

I'll give you his drops, but that isn't as bad as moss taking plays/ games off and not playing to his potential on every snap/

Even with taking games/plays off Moss' matched TO's productivity. That actually speaks to Moss being better if you think about it. He matched dudes career numbers while not playing to his potential on every snap. Randall Cunnningham was installing flooring the year before Moss had him back in the Pro Bowl. Don't know why you would bring up QBs when they are pretty even in that regard. And that's only because Moss played with Brady.

We really gonna act like Moss didn't take short or over the middle throws deep? :comeon: Dudes stay acting like all he ever caught was go routes. You don't accumulate damn near 1000 receptions on all go's. I'll give you blocking. The thing that really separates the two is that Moss was the driving force behind 2 of the 3 greatest offenses ever and on one he was rookie :whew:.
 

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Even with taking games/plays off Moss' matched TO's productivity. That actually speaks to Moss being better if you think about it. He matched dudes career numbers while not playing to his potential on every snap. Randall Cunnningham was installing flooring the year before Moss had him back in the Pro Bowl. Don't know why you would bring up QBs when they are pretty even in that regard. And that's only because Moss played with Brady.

We really gonna act like Moss didn't take short or over the middle throws deep? :comeon: Dudes stay acting like all he ever caught was go routes. You don't accumulate damn near 1000 receptions on all go's. I'll give you blocking. The thing that really separates the two is that Moss was the driving force behind 2 of the 3 greatest offenses ever and on one he was rookie :whew:.

Like i said they both had their short comings and yet their numbers are nearly identical. That speaks well for both players. For me personally i'll take TO on my squad, i can live with the jobs but i can't live with not giving your all on the field.

As far as QB's go. Owens had young for 2 years in 97 when rice got hurt and he became the starter opposite jj stokes and 98 when he started full time. After that young was hurt against the cards and he had jeff, then mcnabb in 04 who had his career best year with TO like brady did in 07 with Moss. Like i said it's close forreal but for me i'll take Owens
 

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We really gonna act like Moss didn't take short or over the middle throws deep? :comeon: Dudes stay acting like all he ever caught was go routes. You don't accumulate damn near 1000 receptions on all go's. I'll give you blocking. The thing that really separates the two is that Moss was the driving force behind 2 of the 3 greatest offenses ever and on one he was rookie :whew:.

I'll give you moss being the driving force of the 2 greatest offense, however Owens NEVER played in a air it out system like minny in 98 or the pats in 07. In frisco and philly they played a ball control west coast offense with short/underneath throws designed to keep the chains alive and the opposing defenses on the field. It was only quick strike when TO would go 80 yards on a 15 yard in cut. Those teams weren't throwing it 40-50 times like minny and new england were, but i'll give you that anyway
 
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