Internet nikkas in the 90s used to hate on rappers worse than thecoli

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On a side note, I was playing "Computer Love" by Zapp & Roger on the way to work today and I couldn't help but think of Tupac cause he done had the tune sampled like 5 times for different songs. He must've really loved that record lol.
 

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My dates are wrong, my mistake. Above the Rim came out in 93. My dates are wrong

Your dates were a bit wrong but I agree with the overall statement. I didn’t see Above The Rim because Pac, was in it, I saw it because a) it was a basketball/street all movie, b) it was Hip Hop AF because of the soundtrack and c) I recognised Kyle from White Men Can’t Jump and dude from Cool Runnings. It was a bonus that Pac was in it and such a dope role but he wasn’t the star or the main draw card. He was a good actor tho, and getting better.
 

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I was around back then lurking and participating in message boards.

This is why i'm generally like:comeon: when I see some of you shyt posters going for the 30 millionth "Diss Pac for the Lolz" thread. It's tired, unimaginative low-skill trolling usually from some Cac with 3-4 aliases or a die hard Jay-z fan.

in fact there use to be a nikka who between All Hip Hop's The Ill Community and Boxden use to have a running "2pac hater" schtick dating all the way back to 2000 up til about 2015, Multiple people use to call him out and expose his ass.

That's the most extreme case


Also, This isnt an accurate real-time snap shot of the general consesus about 2pac back then, Most people didnt even own PCs at home besides some priveleged kids or PC hobbyist who want play with MS-DOS or PC games like Doom

And even back then, message boards were a marginalized medium to have online discussions. Chatrooms and later instant messengers were the social media of their day. A poppin message board back then had around a few thousand users (if that) vs the millions of users once Myspace and Facebook came along.

Nikkas think a few screens shots from Wayback Machine is enough to go off of.

Message boards back then were full of back packer elitist, wiggers and trust fund babies looking to troll anywhere they can back then.

It wasnt until Negroes started having access to the internet more frequently or owning home PCs that messages boards became popping. That's why alot of the opinions are shyt, these were the type of MFs to Stan obscure underground hip hop artist and thought Jeru the Damaja was too mainstream .... and that Q-Tip was a sellout for making "Breathe and stop" and "Vibrant thing". You better off not using message posters from the 90s to guage what people really thought back then. you had to be outside .:manny:
 

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Im just gon say real brehs weren't on the internet in the early to mid 90s. They were outside doing shyt. In the late 90s is when forums/chat rooms became popular and more mainstream. Computers and internet were more affordable too.
 

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Its funny how we attribute Pac's actions as to why he is dead, so why is biggie dead?:ohhh:
 

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I was participating in message boards by '96...but heavily from '98 when I went to college. I was another broke ninja from Norf Philly, but I was a nerd, went to nerd schools, so I needed a computer then. I used to get online at school or the library, because dial-up was a bizzitch The message boards were full of the underground heads/backpackers...white & black.

Pac was divisive, always. It was pretty much consensus "for someone so intelligent, he does a lot of dumb ish." I think Dear Mama was really the song that turned a lot of the others onto him...and that was a cumulative snowball effect...and then he pretty much turned those same people off with his DR rants.

I was playing ball when he died. Someone came onto the courts like "the man 2pac is now dead." Everybody was like WOW, then continued to play ball. Mind you, I'm 16 and heavily into hiphop at that point...as was most of us. The mythological status granted to rappers didn't come until after Pac.
I'm talking from experience and I know exactly what I'm talking about. I specifically said it wasn't widely rejoiced about by true Nas fans at the time. I did NOT say it wasn't widely received overall, by the mainstream (from the Lauryn Hill push at the time - Fugees were the biggest thing on earth at that moment.) My point was, the die hard Nas heads did not love the album at the time and that is the truth. For some reason when I make this statement it really gets some folks' panties in a bunch, I don't know why. It's not like I said that the album was trashed by heads, I just state the truth...and that is that ALOT of Nas 'stans' at the time were VERY disappointed with it. I don't see why that's a crazy thing to say? It's what it was...
That's not entirely true. Nas had 2 type of fans. There were the underground heads and the rap heads...but everyone loved Nas, and no faction is a "true fan" over the other. Hell, you can argue that the rap heads were the ones that bought Illmatic, while the underground heads heard a dub of dub of a dub. The underground Nas fans are what saw the "commercial" angle of IWW, but those that weren't strictly underground heads loved It Was Written in real time. The battle was the underground wanted to keep him, the rap fans wanted him to be top of charts. But even those same underground heads eventually loved It Was Written.
 

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I was participating in message boards by '96...but heavily from '98 when I went to college. I was another broke ninja from Norf Philly, but I was a nerd, went to nerd schools, so I needed a computer then. I used to get online at school or the library, because dial-up was a bizzitch The message boards were full of the underground heads/backpackers...white & black.

Pac was divisive, always. It was pretty much consensus "for someone so intelligent, he does a lot of dumb ish." I think Dear Mama was really the song that turned a lot of the others onto him...and that was a cumulative snowball effect...and then he pretty much turned those same people off with his DR rants.

I was playing ball when he died. Someone came onto the courts like "the man 2pac is now dead." Everybody was like WOW, then continued to play ball. Mind you, I'm 16 and heavily into hiphop at that point...as was most of us. The mythological status granted to rappers didn't come until after Pac.

That's not entirely true. Nas had 2 type of fans. There were the underground heads and the rap heads...but everyone loved Nas, and no faction is a "true fan" over the other. Hell, you can argue that the rap heads were the ones that bought Illmatic, while the underground heads heard a dub of dub of a dub. The underground Nas fans are what saw the "commercial" angle of IWW, but those that weren't strictly underground heads loved It Was Written in real time. The battle was the underground wanted to keep him, the rap fans wanted him to be top of charts. But even those same underground heads eventually loved It Was Written.
Peace lord, good post.

Curious tho…what was the internet like in 96’…Like what did y’all do on it, were there a lot of sites lol? Relative to now where there are communities with millions of ppl.
 

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Peace lord, good post.

Curious tho…what was the internet like in 96’…Like what did y’all do on it, were there a lot of sites lol? Relative to now where there are communities with millions of ppl.

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"Gateway" I think that's what the computer name/company was called, that's when I started to dabble on the internet, and I think 99/2000 Napster came about.

I remember in the 90s, most black kids were outside, you gotta also keep in mind that when you were on the internet, you tied up the phone line, NOBODY could get on the telephone when the internet was used, back then cell phones were very very rare, beepers were the thing, most black household families used their landlines and if you had siblings, the phone was always tied up for the most part (folks would prefer to talk in the phone, 2way, 3 way etc). Internet speed was not that fast, you had to pay for the speed of the internet. shyt was different. AOL, BellSouth was the provider in my area

Internet chatrooms and forums was a "white nerd, thing" "outsider, non cool kids" thing, this was the narrative in the 90s until, the late 90s early 2000s

I can't speak on those folks who families had money, but for lower class, middle class black folks, this was the case, many families did not have computers in the 90s, and if there were computers in the home, it was used for business, work, Not for play.
Many folks would watch BET, sitcoms, or "The BOX" where they played music videos all day, folks rarely (black folks) surf the internet.

Late 90s (99-2000s) you started to have black families purchase computers or if that family had a computer, the children would start to get on (again tying up the telephone line) and surf the internet, more so to download songs or go into those AOL chatrooms and talk about sex, or troll women.

Again, being on the internet ALL day and ALL night was not the thing in the 90s for your average black teen/kid.
 

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"Gateway" I think that's what the computer name/company was called, that's when I started to dabble on the internet, and I think 99/2000 Napster came about.

I remember in the 90s, most black kids were outside, you gotta also keep in mind that when you were on the internet, you tied up the phone line, NOBODY could get on the telephone when the internet was used, back then cell phones were very very rare, beepers were the thing, most black household families used their landlines and if you had siblings, the phone was always tied up for the most part (folks would prefer to talk in the phone, 2way, 3 way etc). Internet speed was not that fast, you had to pay for the speed of the internet. shyt was different. AOL, BellSouth was the provider in my area

Internet chatrooms and forums was a "white nerd, thing" "outsider, non cool kids" thing, this was the narrative in the 90s until, the late 90s early 2000s

I can't speak on those folks who families had money, but for lower class, middle class black folks, this was the case, many families did not have computers in the 90s, and if there were computers in the home, it was used for business, work, Not for play.
Many folks would watch BET, sitcoms, or "The BOX" where they played music videos all day, folks rarely (black folks) surf the internet.

Late 90s (99-2000s) you started to have black families purchase computers or if that family had a computer, the children would start to get on (again tying up the telephone line) and surf the internet, more so to download songs or go into those AOL chatrooms and talk about sex, or troll women.

Again, being on the internet ALL day and ALL night was not the thing in the 90s for your average black teen/kid.
All of this

shyt I didnt get my 1st PC til mid 2000, and it was only because the private school my pops worked at were phasing out the old manila colored IBM computers for Dells and HP desktops, I was happy as fukk to get one nontheless, but the PC wasnt wiped and the admin account was still on there, lucky i figured out how to Factory reset so that i could actually use the damn thing.

I had dial up for about 6 months then pops switched service providers to Road Runner or whoever who had DSL,

Changed the game back then, to go from waiting 4 minutes for a page to download to having the shyt load within 10 seconds was :blessed:

and I could talk on the phones at the same time too:whew: (chatlines were poppin back then).

I get hip to messages boards via EZ-Boards because I was looking for CashMoney related stuff (I was a hotboy stan back then lol) and I've been hooked on message boards ever since. shyt was fun and I use to troll my ass off back then.

I also discovered video game emulation community and got deep into that, you mean I could play Sega, SNES, and Neo Geo games from my PC?:banderas:

2002 comes and now high speed internet , like 100Mbps is a thing my pops is caking and buys me a brand new HP Pavilion Slimline desktop with Windows XP on it...the beautiful bright colors and themes, fast boot time, and it had these new things called USB ports and a DVD player :ohhh:. .


no more ugly, bigass manila CRT monitors and desktops taking up all the space at my desk. No more ugly gray windows 98 theme and slow input/output times from my mouse and keybpoard. no more floppy disk.

Also in 99/2000 I had to rely on pictures for porn my nikkas, pictures........ oh and whatever 15 - 20 second clips i could find on porn aggregate sites back then, if you found a clip that was a minute or more that was a jack pot.

That all changed in when I discovered All Hip Hop's The IC and that Powerful Porno Movement with all them ZShare/ Megaupload, Gorillarms links with full length videos, that's when a nikka became a full on porn demon (for a time anyways). nikkas was ripping 10 to 60 minutes videos and sharing the wealth. illpix subfroum was like the gentlemen's JBO back then.....but for real nikkas


damn im going on a tangent reminiscing but fukk it, the premise of this thread is wack anyways:yeshrug:
 

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This thread has been made a few times and I always say the same thing.

Checking old threads from the 90's is great for entertainment purposes but is not a reflection of reality, at all.

Around 10% of America had internet access in 1996, what you're seeing is computer nerds that just happened to listen to rap.

Not rap fans, not people that were "outside". If you were sitting on a message board in 1996 typing long ass messages about rappers....you wasn't the norm.

Fred.
 

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This thread has been made a few times and I always say the same thing.

Checking old threads from the 90's is great for entertainment purposes but is not a reflection of reality, at all.

Around 10% of America had internet access in 1996, what you're seeing is computer nerds that just happened to listen to rap.

Not rap fans, not people that were "outside". If you were sitting on a message board in 1996 typing long ass messages about rappers....you wasn't the norm.

Fred.
all u what u said may be true. But the premise of the thread is 10000% on point. A lot of people felt that way. Pac nor Biggie was universally loved. Biggie even address the hate on his last rap city interview and all throughout life after death.
 
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