Is "Catching the Holy Ghost" just attention whoring?

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Where do they get these names from
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shyt sound like names of bad guys from The last Dragon.

on the low these nikkas got the greatest rap names of all time :heh:

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:laff: :laff: :laff: i am in fukking tears lmaoooooo
 

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Nice misquote of an experiment you don't understand.

The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you haven't substantiated your argument.

YOU are speaking from a lack of personal experience, especially since you can't back up your own assertions.

What you believe has nothing to do with what can be proven and moreover, what actually exists or is possible.

Changing the brains chemical nature doesn't mean you're therefore clued into something you weren't aware of. You're not experiencing anything else externally. Your experience merely changes.



BURDEN OF PROOF.



You sure you really do? Because it sounds to me like you've accepted shyt you haven't proven and are equating your speculation with the efforts of hypothesis/testing/evaluation/verification.

I've experienced things in my life that I could not possibly be explain. I do know that there are more things outside of the box, than inside of the box. What if the affects of psychedelics allows the human mind to see different "channels" of outside of our reality? The change of the conscious experience is the point.

I said "in my experience with meditation" and you say "my belief". That is not a belief, that is a fact. I don't need to "prove" anything. This is not a court, not a science class or experiment. I'm not going to write you an essay. Your just going to trust me on that since our sciences are not advanced enough to help me prove my experiences. I wouldn't lie or make up what I've seen.

This branch of life is something beyond our normal comprehension and can only be experienced personally, through our bodies and minds. YOU need to explore and tell me what you see. I can't send my experiences into your brain.

I've seen my aura in the mirror. I was able to extend it from about a centimeter to about 4-5 inches and then I saw a crown of spinning light form on my head. If you don't believe me.:yeshrug: I saw what I saw. I was sober. It took about 30mins.

Have you heard of the Emerald Tablets of Thoth? There are things we are so far from understanding. Keep an open mind.
You act like humans know everything about the universe and the things we can't explain yet should simply be dismissed. Ol the world is flat ass nikka. Go explore.
 

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if you're acknowledging "real christianity" as if you're more clued into a notion that everyone else has it wrong, you've already lost.

Yeah. People use religion for their own aims.

What about confirming the central notinos though? Is such a belief even warranted? Does that deity even exist? And even further, is it worth trying to say that such a deity had a rule book given to THESE people in THIS part of the world in THIS version.

You have a lot of assumptions you're taking without addressing the root of your argument.

No, I don't think that at all. The root of my argument is that its all a farce.
 

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you think a girl can twerk in church and claim it was the holy ghost ??
 

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I've experienced things in my life that I could not possibly be explain.
Does that mean you can make shyt up in the mean time or do you admit the gap in your knowledge and seek the answer?


Wanting something to be the answer, does not make it so.

I do know that there are more things outside of the box, than inside of the box. What if the affects of psychedelics allows the human mind to see different "channels" of outside of our reality? The change of the conscious experience is the point.
welcome to neuroscience then.

But my premise remains. Your "what ifs" aren't confirmed, or even backed up to any appreciable degree.

You could quote how opiates like Ibogaine are helping people overcome addiction...but does that THEREFORE mean you "connect" with channels outside of reality?

And what do you mean as "outside of reality" anyways?

Birds can see more in the UV spectrum than you can. Elephants can hear deep waves below your range of hearing.

Are you talking about sensory stimulation or something supernatural?

We can't have this discussion with vague terms and empty definitions.

I said "in my experience with meditation" and you say "my belief". That is not a belief, that is a fact.
Thats confirmation bias. Just because you experienced it, doesn't mean its what you claim actually happened.

People claim to witness "miracles" all the time, but that doesn't mean such a thing happened.

If I explain how a "miracle" took place, is it still a miracle?

I don't need to "prove" anything.
Uh...yeah you do. Otherwise, anything I conjure up is therefore true. We can play that game too if you want.

If you're mad that people aren't accepting your SPECULATION as substantiated fact, then you need to provide better arguments. Its no one's responsibility to defend your arguments FOR you.
This is not a court, not a science class or experiment. I'm not going to write you an essay.
Right. Yet you're claiming to be privy to something you can't explain or aren't willing to defend, yet you want the credibility of the same legitimacy you're casting off.
Your just going to trust me on that since our sciences are not advanced enough to help me prove my experiences. I wouldn't lie or make up what I've seen.

You're asking me to "trust" you?...thats not how this works.

You make claims.

Then you back those claims up.

You're moving the goal posts and asking people to suspend their disbelief merely because you're too intellectually lazy to support your arguments.

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This branch of life is something beyond our normal comprehension and can only be experienced personally, through our bodies and minds. YOU need to explore and tell me what you see. I can't send my experiences into your brain.
Experiences alone do not equate to confirmation of specially held beliefs.

In that case, Rick Ross REALLY IS Big Meech.

See how that works? :usure:

I've seen my aura in the mirror.
strong claim there. wanna back it up?
I was able to extend it from about a centimeter to about 4-5 inches and then I saw a crown of spinning light form on my head. If you don't believe me.:yeshrug: I saw what I saw. I was sober. It took about 30mins.
1. What is an aura?
2. What confirms that it was an aura?
3. How do you know it wasn't a visual abberation or hallucination?
4. How do you confirm any of this?

AND YET...you want me to believe you based on your inability, rather, RELUCTANCE to defend your argument.

Have you heard of the Emerald Tablets of Thoth?
Yeah.

There are things we are so far from understanding. Keep an open mind.
No shyt. That doesn't mean that everything you come across is true.

I love how you act like these old people thousands of years ago knew all this shyt but theres so much they DIDNT know either.

All this reverence for the past seems to overlook their massive gaps in knowledge and misunderstandings as well.
You act like humans know everything about the universe and the things we can't explain yet should simply be dismissed. Ol the world is flat ass nikka. Go explore.

I never claimed this. That would be YOU.

You're one of those "third eye" nikkas who can't be bothered with proving anything yet try to escape criticism by claiming you have an open mind.

Being wrong about something is good once in a while. its how you come to learn that you're wrong about something.
 

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Funny how you act like YOU CLAIM TO KNOW what your god thinks.

I also love how you act like god is present but are still equating these experiences to emotional triggers...so which is it? One or the other.

1 Cor 2:
10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.[
c] 14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 15 The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, 16 for,
“Who has known the mind of the Lord
so as to instruct him?”[
d]
But we have the mind of Christ.


What I said is God will bring something to our mind, like maybe how he spared our life in a past experience. Or answer a question that has eluded us for quite a long time. This in turn can produce an emotional response in gratitude to the Lord. The response itself is not forced on the individual by God, although it could be somewhat involuntary like tears streaming down your face when you don't want them to. But the individual could also choose to shut their emotions down and give no response.
 

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you think a girl can twerk in church and claim it was the holy ghost ??

they do have stripper pole workout classes sponsored by Christians .... ... :whoo:

Lemme tell you how fake this BS is..true story..I saw this dude at the American Airlines arena..someone asked me to go..he started from one section of the arena and threw his hands out and everyone fell...as it got closer to my section i started getting nervous as **** was even about to walk out and go to the restroom because I was scared to pass out..anyways when it got to my section every damn body fell down and I was standing up alone looking at all these people like wtf..these christians really give this man all this power to turn them into a fool?!

what kind of stuff does he say before they start dropping like
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1 Cor 2:
10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.[c] 14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 15 The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, 16 for,
“Who has known the mind of the Lord
so as to instruct him?”[d]
But we have the mind of Christ.

What I said is God will bring something to our mind, like maybe how he spared our life in a past experience. Or answer a question that has eluded us for quite a long time. This in turn can produce an emotional response in gratitude to the Lord. The response itself is not forced on the individual by God, although it could be somewhat involuntary like tears streaming down your face when you don't want them to. But the individual could also choose to shut their emotions down and give no response.

Gotta love when religious people quote their little book as if I can't quote some bullshyt out of it too. Gotta love that selective reading.

If you say god imparts this to individuals, we should be able to measure it...right?
 

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Just like we can 'measure dreams' right/
Gotta love when religious people quote their little book as if I can't quote some bullshyt out of it too. Gotta love that selective reading.

If you say god imparts this to individuals, we should be able to measure it...right?

Let's see you quote your own comprehensive philosophy on life and the universe's formation. it's easy to throw your little stones but let's see if your beliefs hold under equal scrutiny.
 

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It hurts my soul seeing how crowds and flocks of our people are manipulated out of earnings, separated from friends & families, and mind controlled all because of some Slick Willy talking religious pimp..
couldnt have said this any better

and the worst part is that this is PURE christianity, but no one wants to admit it. god is either terrible at his job, or its just always been a complete bullshyt story. the whole premise is bullshyt: peopl actually believe that just by being born, they are indebted to god :what:. can you think of a better hustle than that? because i cant.

all u have to do is look up the net worth of the vatican real quick
 
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