Is Donovan Mitchell a top 20 player?

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Bubble or not, he made NBA playoff history

So did Jamal Murray as well.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

Bubble or not, he made NBA playoff history

And Jamal Murray was putting up 50 in the same series .

That’s the thing with this Mitchell shyt . He can score but he is 1000% not stopping shyt .

It’s hard as hell to build a winner around a guy like that

 

[Daniel.]

Why the fukk do you think the trades were getting shytted on if not for their status being questioned this playing dumb shyt that y’all dudes do on here doesn’t serve any purpose but making you look foolish tbh

I don't have the interest, inclination or energy to play dumb with yall.

I asked a specific question rooted in the belief that these questions around Mitchell are low key shots at the Knicks at the proposed trades.

You start telling me how the other trades were shytted on, but that wasn't my point or my concern. My issue is/was the sudden concern around Mitchell's talent and a reasonable trade market for him, when that market has been established by perceived lesser player(s).

I asked what 4x5 was and you answered red, nikka. Is what it is. Not always going to be on the same page.

 

[Daniel.]

Take your meds bro

Pity dap.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

And Jamal Murray was putting up 50 in the same series .

That’s the thing with this Mitchell shyt . He can score but he is 1000% not stopping shyt .

It’s hard as hell to build a winner around a guy like that

We say the same thing about Dame, but people think it’s wrong to say the same thing about Mitchell.

 

[ISO]

And Jamal Murray was putting up 50 in the same series .

That’s the thing with this Mitchell shyt . He can score but he is 1000% not stopping shyt .

It’s hard as hell to build a winner around a guy like that

Pull up Donovan’s numbers from the following year outside of the Bubble.

It’s not hard to build around a guy like that it’s pretty simple actually get some defenders around him.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Pull up Donovan’s numbers from the following year outside of the Bubble.

It’s not hard to build around a guy like that it’s pretty simple actually get some defenders around him.

And where are those defenders supposed to come from considering that other teams are looking for those exact players?

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

Pull up Donovan’s numbers from the following year outside of the Bubble.

It’s not hard to build around a guy like that it’s pretty simple actually get some defenders around him.

Pull his numbers for what? I know he can get buckets . He’s a one undersized one way player right now . Building a winner around a undersized 2 is difficult. In order to maximize a guy like him he needs to be paired with a jumbo playmaker that can run the offense which would allow Mitch to guard PGs on offense . The problem is that those types of guys aren’t easy to get because everyone is looking for that so you end up with a back court with two players that are incapable of guarding the 2 which destroys your perimeter defense and Mitch isn’t special enough offensively to offset that ..hell nobody at his size is unless they can run the point

 

[Slow Moving]

The advanced analytics from this site say that Mitchell is the 11th best offensive player in the NBA.


Donovan Mitchell - Stats & Analytics | CraftedNBA


He's def a better player than Ant Edwards and a lot of those other guys you mentioned.

They have the same efficiency while one is 5 yrs older less athletic/weaker/less explosive.

 

[ISO]

They have the same efficiency while one is 5 yrs older less athletic/weaker/less explosive.

They don’t have the same efficiency Mitchell is slightly more efficient because he is a knockdown FT shooter (85%).

Mitchell is also more impactful offensively because his offense is almost entirely self created, he has more range, has a great in between game (Ant-Man struggles here), and is the better kick out passer.

Edwards will likely be better than Mitchell but he is not better than him now.

 

[Left.A1]

aint you the dude who been stanning simmons and had some weird ass crusade against Mitch (even though Mitch has been better than Ben)?

“Crusade against Mitchell” Sounds like you hurt nikka

 

[Left.A1]

And Jamal Murray was putting up 50 in the same series .

That’s the thing with this Mitchell shyt . He can score but he is 1000% not stopping shyt .

It’s hard as hell to build a winner around a guy like that

Score 50 give 50

 

[Voice of Reason]

They don’t have the same efficiency Mitchell is slightly more efficient because he is a knockdown FT shooter (85%).

Mitchell is also more impactful offensively because his offense is almost entirely self created, he has more range, has a great in between game (Ant-Man struggles here), and is the better kick out passer.

Edwards will likely be better than Mitchell but he is not better than him now.

Mitchell is a better shooter period except from 3 where he is very slightly worse.

 

[Left.A1]

I don't have the interest, inclination or energy to play dumb with yall.

I asked a specific question rooted in the belief that these questions around Mitchell are low key shots at the Knicks at the proposed trades.

You start telling me how the other trades were shytted on, but that wasn't my point or my concern. My issue is/was the sudden concern around Mitchell's talent and a reasonable trade market for him, when that market has been established by perceived lesser player(s).

I asked what 4x5 was and you answered red, nikka. Is what it is. Not always going to be on the same page.

So you in your feels about people being “mean” to the Knicks and that has you irrationally defensive …ok cool thank you …that’s all you had to say my nikka

 

[Voice of Reason]

Pull his numbers for what? I know he can get buckets . He’s a one undersized one way player right now . Building a winner around a undersized 2 is difficult. In order to maximize a guy like him he needs to be paired with a jumbo playmaker that can run the offense which would allow Mitch to guard PGs on offense . The problem is that those types of guys aren’t easy to get because everyone is looking for that so you end up with a back court with two players that are incapable of guarding the 2 which destroys your perimeter defense and Mitch isn’t special enough offensively to offset that ..hell nobody at his size is unless they can run the point

So basically you need a dejuonte murray?