Is Eminem's problem that he just don't have anything to rap about now

[Tony D'Amato]

I think its his voice

This is an issue, but gis voice wasn't an issue on his early features cuz he was spittin. It seemed effortless and like he was having fun. Now everything sounds forced. It hurts when u remember how cold he was

 

[Roxx the King]

Do y’all make threads about other rappers you don’t like when they have features on songs?

The Eminem hate is only irrational when you consider how many other terrible rappers or rappers we don’t like that we simply ignore.

It’s not even as if this is a place where Eminem is praised. This is a place where we go out of our way to be annoyed at his existence in Hip Hop.

So again, why aren’t there more threads about other rappers we hate? What is the fascination with constantly complaining about Eminem’s existence?

 

[Deltron]

Do y’all make threads about other rappers you don’t like when they have features on songs?

The Eminem hate is only irrational when you consider how many other terrible rappers or rappers we don’t like that we simply ignore.

It’s not even as if this is a place where Eminem is praised. This is a place where we go out of our way to be annoyed at his existence in Hip Hop.

So again, why aren’t there more threads about other rappers we hate? What is the fascination with constantly complaining about Eminem’s existence?

op is one of the biggest em dikkriders on the site

 

[Tony D'Amato]

op is one of the biggest em dikkriders on the site

And it hurts how far he's fell. That Nas feature sounded so forced. I thought for sure he would bring back that Infinite flow.

 

[CASHAPP]

Lmao

The Youtubers already uploading a dozen videos reacting and putting fire emojis in the thumbnails talking about how Eminem went in

Breh some people just have bad ears.

 

[Deltron]

And it hurts how far he's fell. That Nas feature sounded so forced. I thought for sure he would bring back that Infinite flow.

my problem is he won't give up the robot flow

you can tell when he's inspired...like when he dissed joey on the OG version of bang or catapiller or the MGK disses

 

[Tony D'Amato]

my problem is he won't give up the robot flow

you can tell when he's inspired...like when he dissed joey on the OG version of bang or catapiller or the MGK disses

The Ringer

 

[Shogun]

it works as a concept album

and lyrically it wasn't as cringy as future verses

the accent gets old but it is a solid album, especially compared to most of his later releases.

I used to think the same but it randomly came on my iPod recently and that shyt doesn’t hold up well for me at all.

 

[BK The Great]

Em is bored, he thinks using multi flows every minute will make people happy when it doesn't. He needs to follow the same thing he did on Kamikaze & Music To Be Murdered By. He was comfortable on there and sounded like his old self but in a modern way.

 

[Starburst]

Do y’all make threads about other rappers you don’t like when they have features on songs?

The Eminem hate is only irrational when you consider how many other terrible rappers or rappers we don’t like that we simply ignore.

It’s not even as if this is a place where Eminem is praised. This is a place where we go out of our way to be annoyed at his existence in Hip Hop.

So again, why aren’t there more threads about other rappers we hate? What is the fascination with constantly complaining about Eminem’s existence?

The bold is very true. The hate he gets is bizarre, yet folks give props to rappers who talk about killing each other and selling drugs to each other in every single song they put out.

Eminem’s relevance in Hip-Hop has been proven time and time again. In addition, his peers whose opinions actually matter respect his place in the culture. No other white rapper has been able to do what Eminem has done, and I doubt they ever will.


In my opinion there are many rappers who don’t deserve to exist in Hip -Hop, but Eminem isn’t one of them

 

[Deltron]

I used to think the same but it randomly came on my iPod recently and that shyt doesn’t hold up well for me at all.

although last time I really gave it a listen was 2018...maybe I'll revisit it soon

 

[Diunx]

I hate his machine like flow.

 

[ThaPrez]

the problem is that yall keep talking content but really it's the execution of said content that is the root issue

which low key is the real key to being a dope emcee, lyricist, rapper, or non singular authorship rap performer. yes, WAY more important than content. WAY. how do you deliver your rhymes? is there rhythmic syncopation with the track that makes the head nod automatically? does whatever you're saying sound fly when it leaves your mouth? does the cadence & vocal intonations move you emotionally? is the voice rich, resonant, and leave an indelible mark on the listener? do the vocal leanings hug the track or fight the track? do you believe that line or lines in its conveyance of emotion?

eminem fails miserably in all these categories 90% of the time now. it's become a very forced try hard affair because with age & isolation he's lost that edge so now he's switched the rubric & says i'm going to technical rap you to death until you're in awe of my mastery. it is absolute trash. just listen to tim westwood microphone freestyle for that last semblance of shady's greatness. compare it to now and you're like yeah it's completely over b

this one of the illest ways i've seen to describe what makes a rapper dope

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Problem with Em is that he cares about that multi syllable rhyme scheme rather then content, that’s his definition of being lyrical & it’s wack as shyt.

Deja Vu is classic Em. Stay Wide Awake subject matter is , but the song is so fukkin good

Same Song and Dance, his flow on must be the ganja

Its some really good shyt on that album. Even 3am is dope.

 

[Mike the Executioner]

When I first heard his verse, I was because of all the energy that song had. Nas and EPMD were working overtime trying to make it memorable and then once the baton got passed, it's like Eminem sucked all the energy in the room just to do everything you would expect of him.

The second time, it wasn't as bad. I don't think this is anywhere near as bad as his "No Favors" verse, for example. But I think the reason it bothered me so much was because he was doing this shyt on someone else's work. The new album from my personal GOAT, on a track with artists that I know he respects and worships. And I'm sitting here like.......why did he turn this verse in? I know he can do better than this. But I start wondering if he can.

I feel like when it comes to Eminem's albums, everything is tailored to him. The production, the vibe of the tracks. He's not going to feel out of place in his own world where he can control everything. But when he has to step out of that world, his flaws are far more noticeable and that’s when you realize.......he's only capable of rapping like this, saying things like this, flowing like this. He's gifted and limited at the same time. It's bizarre.

It's also like @old boy said perfectly in that Eminem is just not that musically sound. He's not, and I'm wondering why because it wasn't always like that. Perfect example: The first D12 album. I've been listening to it these past few weeks and the Eminem we have on that one is a completely different person. That Eminem could have slid on a track like this. But I've been trying to figure out what the hell this man's problem is and I just have a bunch of ideas, not facts.

Yes. But he's trying to use the blazing fast shyt to cover the fact he's not really saying shyt now.

Like I'm sure he's studied the dictionary, but I doubt he's read a book or is able to speak in detail about any subject thats not hip hop related.

His best music recently was shyt like the ringer. Where he's pissed and venting about something specific.

You're right in that he doesn't read books. One of the few books he's read cover to cover is LL Cool J's autobiography, along with the dictionary.

Kamikaze is still a really good album in my eyes because for once, it doesn't sound like he's overthinking shyt. He's just angry at everything and everybody. I know it might come off as bitter, but I feel like this is the closest he's gotten to MMLP Eminem. He has the same rage that he did on that album, it's just utilized in a different way.

I might be looking into this too much, but I'm wondering if he's starting to enter another decline. His music in the 2010s got progressively worse until Revival was the point of no return. He made a comeback with Kamikaze, then the MTBMB albums were a mixed bag, and......what do you call this era now? He's not screaming like an idiot any more, he's not using Alex da Kid or Rick Rubin anymore, but the bad punchlines have been around since Recovery, and the speed rapping/beat switching have been around for at least five years.