GKMC doesn't stack up to Ready To Die, Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt and many other actual classics, people were just reaching for something to prop up for "this generation", on music it isn't close.
Is Kendrick Lamar Overrated?
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It surprised the hell out of me for a double album. Can count on 1 hand the number of skippable tracks
you're an idiot.. the same can be said for EVERYBODY. An artist will always be overrated to those who don't like him.
more people voted "yes" in that "is nas overrated" thread?
Someone just started that thread, plus I'm not talking about threads, I'm talking about real life.
A lot of 2000s albums give GKMC a beating too but...
You can't deny that it's the best mainstream Hip Hop album in the last... say 5 years.
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what city do you live in?
I rotate san diego and some towns in texas and people in cali swear by kdot.
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good kid maad city will be remembered as one of the greatest albums of this generation (and not just in the mainstream), either you like it or not
It has a good argument for that claim.
it actually is tho.And it's cool that K.Dot will have the album considered the best of this generation but...
This generation isn't exactly thriving with spectacular talent
Unless you just go by what your local radio station is saying whats hot.
even in the realm of underground talent, kendrick is a beast.
Compared to 6-8 years ago talent is lacking.
Kendrick's strength is definitely in his songwriting which sets him apart from the norm
Well I usually judge an artist AFTER I've listened to a sizable amount of their
work. Generally when I chime in on rappers I tend to do my research, I don't
see why a person would only listen to two albums and decide that the artist isn't
dope.The only reason I can even speak on BOTH artists is because I've listened
to both regularly.
Also both the Kendrick Lamar EP and Overly Dedicated are/were available
for purchase much like section.80 so they're in fact "official" releases.
Now I'm certain there are people who regularly play K-Rino's music but if
I'm being honest here then K-Rino has a lot of middling production and lyrics bent on
SOUNDING complex but not really BEING complex. Especially if you have a dictionary at
hand or a vocabulary like I do, at that point it's just a matter of trying to understand what he means.
Kendrick has one edge against K-Rino in my opinion and it's a mark I have against Canibus
and Papoose as well. They're all so hell bent on delivering their well constructed verses
that emotion is lost. It comes off more as a technical showcase and less of an attempt to actually
write a song, unless that song is in a format where they excel like the rapid fire punchline track.
When Canibus,Papoose or K-Rino can just hurl punchlines they hang with the best of them
with ease. It's once they expand OUTSIDE of that, that they start to break down.
Now that isn't to say that K-Rino hasn't attempted different songs nor am I saying he's failed
at all of the different songs he has attempted. I just feel that as great as he is as a rapper, he can be better.
For example he has a song where he's supposed to be expressing "worry" about cheating on
someone he's dating but the actual verse itself isn't performed in a way that expresses that.
And is a fan of Hip Hop I'm certain you know that performance is the other half of being a rapper.
I think he's great, hell as a rapper I'd put him ahead of Lupe Fiasco , a dude that's touted on
here as the end all be all of lyricism but as a song writer I think he could come harder and in
some ways Kendrick and several other rappers I could name do it better
I completely disagree with this, dude is a NICE rapper PERIOD, it doesn't
matter WHICH arena. Mainstream or Underground, which I might add is in no
way a descriptor of how dope someone is, just how well known they are.
Youtube is filled with chief keef clones AS WELL AS Canibus wannabes.
I'll also say I give just about everyone a chance whether I come across
them on youtube, bandcamp,soundcloud,twitter or some blog.
Or if I'm intentionally looking for a certain type of music, it's the reason
I have 2,000 and something albums on my hard drives.
I didn't even know Kendrick had more mixtape material, I heard everything I knew he had. It's a pretty sizeable amount though which I have heard. Plus mixtape work is hard to count sometimes, it's the albums which are often the meat of the equation. That's like the official shyt, and was underwhelmed with both, the 1 or 2 mixtapes did hear were forgettable too. I will go and check the other mixtapes now I know they exist. But the albums have to stand alone, can't rely on mixtape material. Papoose has MAAAAAAAAAD mixtapes, but I don't put him in that elite bracket because partially of lack of albums. His album was nice though, nice 3.5 mic album to me, enjoyed that more than Kendrick's album too. I'd rather listen to Cure than any song off the Kendrick album. Dude only has 2 official albums doesn't he? Lol. So don't know what other albums am supposed to have listened to if that's the case lol. If I missed a mixtape or 2 will check them out. But like I said, the albums have to be stand alone, because that's when you're supposed to be at your best. When I did research on Kendrick often those projects weren't listed and no-one told me so I had no idea they even existed, I will check them out. I disagree with that premise completely, I could show songs to discount that, infact MANY songs. I feel that is an inaccurate analysis and generalisation of a diverse body of work. Production is subjective, I wasn't feeling most of the production on GKMC, at all, was bland to me. Wasn't connecting. A few good beats too. Again like I said, I feel like I can easily disprove that analysis without countless material. Canibus I have far above Kendrick too, and have Papoose above him too. I disagree with you're analysis on all 3 of those artists and would be willing to debate that further. K-Rino in particular has a vast diverse in depth style which goes FAR beyond punchlines, Canibus has political type material too.
Depends what you consider mainstream, Nas had had much better albums to me for instance.
No. just listen to his underground shyt and you'll realize hes that great of an emcee.
He's also an amazing artist, we're talking about the guy who dropped GKMC (easily 4.5 or 5 mics)
Edit: lol at this nikka saying production is subjective. The feeling is subjective, your enjoyment is subjective, but the quality of the production isn't subjective.
He's also an amazing artist, we're talking about the guy who dropped GKMC (easily 4.5 or 5 mics)
Edit: lol at this nikka saying production is subjective. The feeling is subjective, your enjoyment is subjective, but the quality of the production isn't subjective.
I'm a nas stan but gkmc is better than any nas album released these last 4/5 years.
