Conscious Pilot
Do Better.
Yeah.. he’s basically an upgraded Rodgers at this point.
Is Mahomes the best QB you've ever seen?
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Conscious Pilot
Do Better.
Only Rodgers is in the convo. Pat gets more tricky with his shyt but I’ve never seen someone throw a ball like rodgers.
Random and in no way am I comparing him to Rodgers and pat but Cutler threw a beautiful ball.
Random and in no way am I comparing him to Rodgers and pat but Cutler threw a beautiful ball.
areohbee824
Superstar
Most talented in recent years, absolutely
cartierhoe
Veteran
From a talent perspective of course
Damn the team accomplishments, at the quarterback position he is one of the most talented quarterbacks I’ve ever seen.
Damn the team accomplishments, at the quarterback position he is one of the most talented quarterbacks I’ve ever seen.
Nah, still Peyton for me, but he’s barely entering his prime. HE JUST TURNED fukkING 27. By the time it’s all said and done I think he’ll prolly be, just not yet. Peyton manipulated the defense in ways that I dunno if we ever gonna see again. It is what it is.
OnlyOneBoss
Superstar
I looked up his stats yesterday and was in shock 
Like I always knew breh was great of course but I forgot he put up numbers like THAT.
Like I always knew breh was great of course but I forgot he put up numbers like THAT.
Greatest arm talent is just 1 part of equation brehs.
Brady's ability to presnap changes the whole dynamics. Understanding opponents D presnap is how you make others better.
But as far as arm talent goes he is top 3. I would go mahomes, marino, and rodgers no order
Brady's ability to presnap changes the whole dynamics. Understanding opponents D presnap is how you make others better.
But as far as arm talent goes he is top 3. I would go mahomes, marino, and rodgers no order
What does best mean though? Most skilled? Most efficient
The problem with "best" is that there is a huge visual bias.
I'm not saying Rodgers and mahomes aren't talented or great because they are, but "best" often skews towards guys who are capable of making super flashy plays.
It's why some people think Kyrie Irving is the "best" pg while Magic and Curry are greater: Kyrie has the most aesthetically pleasing/streetball game.
That isn't a perfect comparison, but you get my point. Mahomes and Aaron obviously have more physical talent than Brady does, but that undersells Brady's talents that stick out less.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
It’s still Moreno. The only times I’ve ever witnessed evolutionarily jumps or with Lawrence Taylor, Rakim,
Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, and Dan Marino.
With Mahomes you can still argue… When Marino took that evolutionarily that no one could for see, it was just different. The ball placement was just too perfect. The quick release was mind blowing
Michael Jordan, Michael Jackson, and Dan Marino.
With Mahomes you can still argue… When Marino took that evolutionarily that no one could for see, it was just different. The ball placement was just too perfect. The quick release was mind blowing
HacksawJimThuggin
All Star
To me, “best” is a combination of ability + stats. “Greatest” takes things like longevity and team accomplishments (Super Bowls won) into account, which is why I say Brady is the Greatest but not the Best.
For example, I think Rodgers is capable of making every throw Brady can make. But Rodgers, and Mahomes, routinely do things that I’ve never seen anyone ever do; particularly on the move, outside of the pocket, etc. So I agree that there’s definitely a visual component involved as far as eye test, but that typically aligns with otherworldly talent being displayed that is so unique that you’ve just never seen anything like it. Just like Marino, where he came in and SHATTERED all previous passing records and even though he lost to the Niners in ‘84, it would be hard for anyone to argue that he wasn’t the best they ever saw while he was playing.
To your example, if Kyrie was putting up better numbers than Steph and Magic and doing things neither of those guys were doing, all while doing stuff they were capable of doing on their best day (he can’t), then it would be a stronger argument.
He’s on his way