Is Mahomes the best QB you've ever seen?

Is Mahomes the best QB you've ever seen

  • Yes

    Votes: 141 56.2%
  • No

    Votes: 110 43.8%

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The only difference is Jordan never went up again Russell but Mahomes only SB loss is against Brady


Lol, what does that have jack shyt to do with anything? Was Brady playing free safety?

Brady got beat in his head-to-heads with Manning and no one gives a shyt because they know the team won the game, not the quarterback.
 

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The answer was yes after his 2nd year and still yes. Breh is a mix of Marino and Favre with more mobility and size. It's crazy because he was so insanely raw as a prospect. I am talking Anthony Richardson raw but he just figured it all out
 

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Exactly. They couldn’t even help themself with Joe Burrow. I fw The Get up but they really said ‘Mahomes is the most talented, but Joe burrow is the best at playing the QB position:laff: Like wtf does that even mean.

It doesn’t matter. When it’s all said n done whoever got more rings while being elite is gonna be the best.

And just wait til the eagles beat KC

‘Guys I know Mahomes is the most talented, burrow is the best at playing the QB position, but Jalen Hurts is the best weapon at QB. We haven’t seen anything like this’ :pachaha:
In all fairness, Burrow is having some of the best seasons to this date for a QB at the start of his career.

For me, I still like the pre 2007 rule change QBs who had to do it when defenses were allowed to beat up the WRs and QBs. Anything 2007 and later was a much an easier game
 

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Manning is the greatest I've seen and watched closely. He was just so calculating and smart. He was literally the OC on the field.

And stat wise he still has the greatest QB season ever.
Same. Manning was always the clear playing GOAT for me till Mahomes. Brady is tremendous, career goat for sure but I never watched Brady like, he's the best I've ever seen. I always felt him and Montana are similar in that they are goats but they don't really dominate at will all that much like Marino, Manning, or Mahomes does. They just are consistently excellent and that's extremely hard to do. Mahomes has some bad games. As did Marino but Brady and Montana always seemed to play excellent football. Just a level of consistency I truly enjoyed from these two. Rodgers should be in the mix too if we are being honest
 

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Lol, what does that have jack shyt to do with anything? Was Brady playing free safety?

Brady got beat in his head-to-heads with Manning and no one gives a shyt because they know the team won the game, not the quarterback.


Because Brady is higher than Manning on the all time great list.

People would bring it up more often if they were on the same level.

Folks will nitpick and say Brady beat Mahomes in the SB if Mahomes keep winning
 

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1. Brady had 3 rings, all 3 comeback wins.

2. Belichick 4th and 2 stupidity away from playing Rex Grossman in the SB. With Reche Caldwell as a main WR.

3. Top 3 finishes twice in MVP voting

4. Led the league in passing yd once

5. Led the league in TD once

6. 10-0 to start the playoff career


Yall either too young or heavily influenced by anti brady narrative. Only time Brady ever was a game manager was in 2001 when he first started.

It's closer than yall think. Brady was perceived as a clear top 2 QB in the league in that pre moss era.

Put it this way. if Manning is Mahomes then Brady was Burrow, but with 3 rings.

And 2007 eradicated the perception that he doesn't put up numbers.


As great as Mahomes is, he does have kelce and stat friendly offence. Brady's early number was a result of heavily run oriented offense. Brady never had a deep threat like mahomes did early on.
Brady a game manager narrative was common as people just liked other QBs more. You had some they loved the impact and playmaking of Vick. The QB general, Payton Manning. You still had the guys who loved Elway, Montana, Young, Marino, and Aikman talking a lot. When Brady fukked up his ACL and Cassel took over, many were praising that Beli was going to do with Cassel as he did with Brady. This idea of one goat is a NBA thing mainly by MJ stans. Football always knew it was the ultimate team sport.

2007 happened and that was when people finally realizes, oh he's elite, elite
 

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Let's be real, the NFL before 2007 was a massively different league. The Carson Palmer/Tom Brady rule changes forever changed the league

That's why Winston can have a similar first 5 years statistically to Payton Manning and NO ONE felt Winston was anywhere close to Manning
 

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Because Brady is higher than Manning on the all time great list.

People would bring it up more often if they were on the same level.

Folks will nitpick and say Brady beat Mahomes in the SB if Mahomes keep winning


If Eli is so far behind Brady on the all-time great list that he doesn't even belong in the conversation, and yet he STILL beat Brady in multiple Super Bowls, doesn't that just prove that Super Bowl head-to-heads is a shytty way to determine which quarterback is better?

f you ever have a determination where you can say, "That works when they're close but shouldn't be used when they're far apart", then it's a shytty determination and you shouldn't use it. Any useful way of comparing quarterbacks will be MORE true for two quarterbacks who aren't on the same level, not less true.

If it doesn't even work to separate quarterbacks who clearly aren't on the same level, that's proof that it shouldn't be used to separate quarterbacks.
 

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If Eli is so far behind Brady on the all-time great list that he doesn't even belong in the conversation, and yet he STILL beat Brady in multiple Super Bowls, doesn't that just prove that Super Bowl head-to-heads is a shytty way to determine which quarterback is better?

f you ever have a determination where you can say, "That works when they're close but shouldn't be used when they're far apart", then it's a shytty determination and you shouldn't use it. Any useful way of comparing quarterbacks will be MORE true for two quarterbacks who aren't on the same level, not less true.
They trying to use NBA stannery talk into Football
 

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Let's be real, the NFL before 2007 was a massively different league. The Carson Palmer/Tom Brady rule changes forever changed the league

That's why Winston can have a similar first 5 years statistically to Payton Manning and NO ONE felt Winston was anywhere close to Manning
The NFL before 1978 was a massively different league. Let it go
 

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he looking dominant and looks like he can go on a great run. but AFC ain't no cakewalk and things can quickly change fast. Ask Rodgers.



Everything about QB is a team accomplishment. yall act like he threw for 500 yds and 5 tds. :jbhmm:

If Mahomes didnt get to SB and never won anyhing then he is just a brett favre without a ring in a no D era. just think about it. Everything in NFL is about the team.

Brady the team is better than Mahomes the team. Until Mahomes eclipse all the things brady has done then there's only 1 GOAT.


and don't give me that eye test crap. many nikkas already said Josh Allen is 10 times more talented Brady ever was. i don't give a crap about eye test. Brady was an organization. it's more than what he does on the field. ask every damn Bucs.


2 down 5 more to go. congrats on getting up there with John Elway.

he already has more rings than aaron :blessed:
 

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If Eli is so far behind Brady on the all-time great list that he doesn't even belong in the conversation, and yet he STILL beat Brady in multiple Super Bowls, doesn't that just prove that Super Bowl head-to-heads is a shytty way to determine which quarterback is better?

f you ever have a determination where you can say, "That works when they're close but shouldn't be used when they're far apart", then it's a shytty determination and you shouldn't use it. Any useful way of comparing quarterbacks will be MORE true for two quarterbacks who aren't on the same level, not less true.

If it doesn't even work to separate quarterbacks who clearly aren't on the same level, that's proof that it shouldn't be used to separate quarterbacks.


I'm not using that argument but other folks will.

I already said Mahomes don't need 8 rings to surpass Brady.
 
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