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Been seeing the discussion about Russ and Eli and their chances of the HOF, and reminded me that people actually think Mike Evans is a HOF player..
Low standards for the HOF if he gets in.
hes stop ten in receiving tds already
He didn't have the peak of the guys you immediately think of as HOF WRs(Moss/Rice/TO) but he's a model of consistency and productivity. He'll get inhes stop ten in receiving tds already
Said it before and I'll say it again now: the Hall Of Fame committee lowered the bar when they let Kurt Warner in 8 years ago.Been seeing the discussion about Russ and Eli and their chances of the HOF, and reminded me that people actually think Mike Evans is a HOF player..
Low standards for the HOF if he gets in.
Said it before and I'll say it again now: the Hall Of Fame committee lowered the bar when they let Kurt Warner in 8 years ago.
This shouldn't be the Hall of Very Good. It shouldn't be the Hall of Sometimes You Were Great, But Most of Your Career You Sucked.
It shouldn't be the Hall Of Five Elite Years in a 12-Year Career.
And they gonna lower the bar again when they let Eli's mid ass in. Because Warner was definitely better than Eli, and if they lowered the bar letting Warner in, they lowering it some more letting Eli in.
And for the record, Russ was a significantly better player than Eli, so this recent "Eli or Russ" debate is stupid. At his peak, Russ was multiple leaps ahead of whatever the best version of Eli was.
They lowered the bar 5 years ago for receivers when they let Bruce in. He was a great receiver for a brief multi-year stretch but he was essentially the pre-Mike Evans: steady and consistent for a long time.
I wouldn't be shocked if Evans gets in, but I know what my eyes have seen. In Evans' prime, he was not better than (no order):
AB, Julio, Nuk, Reek, Adams, Jefferson, Chase, or St Brown. At the very best, Evans would be the 9th-greatest receiver of his era, which is notable, but it also makes him borderline, but not definitely, a Top 10 receiver of his era. Honestly I thought Michael Thomas had a higher peak and you could make the argument AJ Brown is a better receiver, too.
Were you a Top 5 player at your position for your era; if yes, you're Canton-worthy. If no, you're not. I have a higher bar than most but my standard is simple...Evans can't even be debated as Top 5, he is CLEARLY not a Top 5 player of his era.
You don't win games by compiling yards. You win by scoring points.Yeah, he's been very good for a long time. I don't value receiving TD's the same way I do yards. Not saying you wouldn't rather have Julio, but are you taking Julio or Evans? One of them didn't see the end-zone nearly as much.
Let me know the seasons or how often you think Mike Evans was actually a top five WR?
You don't win games by compiling yards. You win by scoring points.
Dez Bryant scored more than Julio Jones and I'd take Dez over Julio because of that.
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We also have to understand that some of the writers/voters love a good narrative plot driven storyline with some of the Hall of Fame hopefuls (That whole ‘Can you tell the story of the NFL without …?’ Which this will benefit Eli heavily IMO’). Kurt Warner also had the storylines to go along with his peak as well. His story from humble beginnings in playing in the Arena League/bagging groceries, backup QB, to being a co-leader spearheading the those 99’ - 01’ Rams’ teams. Then he played a significant part in getting the Arizona Cardinals to the Super Bowl.I don't know if I have problem with Warner getting in. It's very difficult to leave out a two time MVP that has also won a Super Bowl.
I completely understand his career was short, and shorter than I think many realize. However, his peak and short prime resulted in multiple MVP awards. I'd rather see someone like him get in than longevity selections.
We also have to understand that some of the writers/voters love a good narrative plot driven storyline with some of the Hall of Fame hopefuls (That whole ‘Can you tell the story of the NFL without …?’ Which this will benefit Eli heavily IMO’). Kurt Warner also had the storylines to go along with his peak as well. His story from humble beginnings in playing in the Arena League/bagging groceries, backup QB, to being a co-leader spearheading the those 99’ - 01’ Rams’ teams. Then he played a significant part in getting the Arizona Cardinals to the Super Bowl.
Warner’s HOF selection is still a tricky one for me, because he had like a 5-6 seasons/gap where he was a JAG/nondescript, before his run with the Cardinals. That gap kinda makes me value the consistency a bit more of guys like Gore and Evans, even if they are more Hall of Very Good.
I think the 3rd Super Bowl appearance gave him the nodWarner is a tough one because his career is actually a lot shorter with the Rams than I think many remember. It's just tough leave out a two time MVP.
Yeah, he's been very good for a long time. I don't value receiving TD's the same way I do yards. Not saying you wouldn't rather have Julio, but are you taking Julio or Evans? One of them didn't see the end-zone nearly as much.
Let me know the seasons or how often you think Mike Evans was actually a top five WR?