Is Silkk The Shocker the most trash rapper that was remotely successful?

[JustCKing]

^^^ "If I Don't Gotta" is definitely one of his best performances.

 

[JustCKing]

 

[hex]

Well answer the question of the thread. How many rappers with a legitimately good rap career are worse than silk

no one in here has answered this question because blueface is a 1 hit wonder for example

First we need to quantify what a "good rap career" is.

Dude has 2 plat albums in his entire run. So he's a Big Pun level rapper, in terms of popularity.
So we'd have to figure out who did similar numbers. Let me give this some thought.

Fred.

 

[letti cook]

I feel like these songs are the true measure of what Silkk actually was and why I could never say he was wack or incapable as an mc

i just wish he took this approach on the majority of shyt, then we wouldnt have to be the Silkk avengers when this topic get brought up every month

like a nikka really said he on par with Crunchy Black
3 6 would never let Crunchy open an album just spittin:

 

[Mʀ2ᴋDᴇᴇᴢ]

No Limit music was an acquired taste for most part but no one was trash to me, in this case we talking Silkk.

 

[CrimsonTider]

First we need to quantify what a "good rap career" is.

Dude has 2 plat albums in his entire run. So he's a Big Pun level rapper, in terms of popularity.
So we'd have to figure out who did similar numbers. Let me give this some thought.

Fred.

I said earlier if Yachty’s career was more successful he would be the answer

Silk benefited from being the young heartthrob of the hottest crew of that time

Silk would not have been successful if he was a pure solo act with no co-sign

 

[Wacky D]

Well, you limited Silkk to The South, which made the entire argument regional. What you said didn't go over my head. Its just something that nobody has ever attached to a Silkk The Shocker or really any Southern rapper. Eightball, MJG, UGK, Kast (specifically Big Boi) were all doing that before anyone ever cared about a Silkk.

I don't agree with the revisionist narrative that Silkk was some WOAT rapper, but he wasn't exactly a pioneering one either. He was dope for his time and was definitely a star who had his place in the game, but NOBODY looked at what he was doing pioneering. At least, not in the way you're implying. The other Southern rappers I listed, weren't pioneering in that style either.

@ the bolded. youre talking about pimp rap. that chit is virgin music bro.

pioneer in the sense that silkk is one of the rappers who moved the needle and got us checking for the south. i made this clear in my previous post. im not gonna repeat myself anymore.

 

[Wacky D]

I feel like these songs are the true measure of what Silkk actually was and why I could never say he was wack or incapable as an mc

i just wish he took this approach on the majority of shyt, then we wouldnt have to be the Silkk avengers when this topic get brought up every month

like a nikka really said he on par with Crunchy Black
3 6 would never let Crunchy open an album just spittin:

SCHOOL

BEST POST IN THIS THREAD.

 

[JustCKing]

@ the bolded. youre talking about pimp rap. that chit is virgin music bro.

pioneer in the sense that silkk is one of the rappers who moved the needle and got us checking for the south. i made this clear in my previous post. im not gonna repeat myself anymore.

Wrong again. I am not talking about pimp rap. What you were insinuating is basically rappers talking about their clothes, jewelry, money, women.

Silkk may have been a rapper that got YOU checking for The South. He wasn't someone that just put all eyes on The South though. That's a lie. And him "moving the needle for the South" was only part of what you said in regard to him being a pioneer. You said he was one of the first punchy, fly boy rappers out of The South.

 

[Smitty Belafonte]

No we shouldn’t know who Yachty (stupid name by the way) or Blueface is when it comes to music . Or the City Girls or Saweetie. I can go on

 

[Wacky D]

Wrong again. I am not talking about pimp rap. What you were insinuating is basically rappers talking about their clothes, jewelry, money, women.

Silkk may have been a rapper that got YOU checking for The South. He wasn't someone that just put all eyes on The South though. That's a lie. And him "moving the needle for the South" was only part of what you said in regard to him being a pioneer. You said he was one of the first punchy, fly boy rappers out of The South.

rappers been talking about money, clothes, jewelry, women, etc since forever.
you said it yourself that silkk was their hearthrob. he was the 1st one from the south, that got big at least. and he was talking that chit.

thats not why i called him a pioneer tho.
no limit blew the south up and he was their 2nd or 3rd biggest star. thats why i called him a pioneer. i said this 2 or 3 times already. you luv arguing in circles.

 

[JustCKing]

rappers been talking about money, clothes, jewelry, women, etc since forever.
you said it yourself that silkk was their hearthrob. he was the 1st one from the south, that got big at least. and he was talking that chit.

thats not why i called him a pioneer tho.
no limit blew the south up and he was their 2nd or 3rd biggest star. thats why i called him a pioneer. i said this 2 or 3 times already. you luv arguing in circles.

Well, if you would've just said Silkk was the first young Southern rapper that was adored by females, this exchange wouldn't exist. He was kind of Flip before Flip in that regard, if that makes sense. Silkk doesn't get credit for it as people look at Flip as the og and because Silkk has this stigma over him, I wouldn't expect people to cite Silkk as an influence. All that other jazz isn't necessarily true. Silkk was a part of a crew that was huge movement, but he wasn't the leader or even the catalyst. That would be P. Silkk himself wasn't a pioneer in that regard.

 

[Pop123]

 

[Wacky D]

Well, if you would've just said Silkk was the first young Southern rapper that was adored by females, this exchange wouldn't exist. He was kind of Flip before Flip in that regard, if that makes sense. Silkk doesn't get credit for it as people look at Flip as the og and because Silkk has this stigma over him, I wouldn't expect people to cite Silkk as an influence. All that other jazz isn't necessarily true. Silkk was a part of a crew that was huge movement, but he wasn't the leader or even the catalyst. That would be P. Silkk himself wasn't a pioneer in that regard.

you get it.

as for the 2nd part tho, youre talking as if silkk was just some hanger-on. he was the 2nd or 3rd biggest star on that whole label. dudes who were far less valuable to their crew are treated like kings on this site.

 

[Harry B]

TRU had one dope album though.

Of course being Master Ps brother at that time could make anyone a gold selling rapper with some weeks of practice. Movement was too strong. I always felt that he tried his best to do E40 style and failed extremely badly