Is the American work ethic dying?

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This is actually false, most people from my gen and the next gen are actually working harder than ever. What they don't get is they are taking their labor elsewhere, or finding different avenues to make money.

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Trading/Investing
Social Media influencer/Twitch/Youtube/Instagram/Twitter
People switching their careers to IT
etc

We have so many resources nowadays to learn other things right over the internet and had much more freedom last year to pick up new skills and realize that our time is valuable here on this earth. Companies exploited us, and had us living paycheck to paycheck, working multiple jobs, or long hours just to pay rent and other expenses.
people are realizing time is the most valuable asset
you need time to do what you want
this is why entrepreneurship will be the future for a lot of people
 

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I disagree! Some people don’t wanna work! Some people are lazy! Also, it is a given that people don’t wanna work for low wages. Who does? But, if you can live off of unemployment and stimmy checks vs. having to physically get up, burn gas and take direction from people all day, then of course many people will take the first option.

However, at the end of the day, most people need to work in order to survive. If wage is an issue, then go to college or a trade school and gain the knowledge and skills to earn a higher wage or start your own business and work your ass off until you make a decent or better wage.

you're parroting propaganda.

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Didn't watch the video, but any hot takes about work ethics dying are ridiculous giving we're still in a pandemic where the government-imposed lockdown killed many businesses and forced people to stay home and collect unemployment. :yeshrug:
 

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100 years ago people worked 6 days a week, dumb hours, no insurance, vacation, labor laws and whatever. That’s still the case in poor countries. The more advances a country makes, naturally the better life and thereby working environment the workers should have. But many owners of capital don’t want it to be like that, they want us to to be like robots so that they can do what they want. This is why republicans especially don’t want a change, really they wanna go backwards to when we just shut up and worked like robots and celebrate that minuscule percentage that made it from the bottom. Call it some bullshyt like the American dream.
 

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you're repeating propaganda.

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I am telling the truth! What options do you have to make money?


Either you are going to get a job, try to move up the ladder to make more money and maintain your benefits OR get a job, work while going to school, then apply for a higher earning job once you have established the credentials to qualify for said job OR you are going to not work, live off of someone else while going to school until you gain the credentials to obtain a livable wage OR not work, collect unemployment, SS, SDI, stimmy checks and any other type of state/government assistance OR sell drugs OR sell items you obtained legally or illegally OR join the military OR rob people and pocket check people all day OR pan-handle OR go to a casino, play slots or table games and hope for a windfall OR become a content creator and showcase your talent on social media, etc, etc and etc......

The aforementioned are your choices! How is that propaganda? From whom is said propaganda coming from?
 

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And all they do is put up a picture of you and say RIP he was a hard worker... Blah blah blah nikkas never cared. No one gives a fukk.

Nikkas saying hey I'm employer of the month /week blah blah

Same nikkas get no raise or bonus. All they get is verbal accolades with no monetary value behind it.

This shyt wild.

The popular Good job, Good effort that last only 24-48 hours. Then when raise time come here is your 2.1% raise with no promotion. That don't even match inflation.
 

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Used to be that one person could work while the spouse stayed home. The one job the family maintained paid a wage large enough to afford a house, 2 cars, and provided a retirement pension to reward company loyalty. None of that is the case right now. Nobody has any loyalty to these companies because we aint getting shyt but a paycheck that doesnt go anywhere near as far as what our predecessors received. Folks always looking for the next way to get ahead because all people are doing is treading water with little relief.
 

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The Japanese work harder at school.

And also they as a country are having a huge issue with re-population because too many of the men are sexless and ok with not having female relations. The % of men there who end up living w/ their parents or alone is nuts. And it’s not because they’re too focused on their job.

Americans combine career ambition w/ p*ssy gettin :myman:
We will be like Japan
 

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I am telling the truth! What options do you have to make money?


Either you are going to get a job, try to move up the ladder to make more money and maintain your benefits OR get a job, work while going to school, then apply for a higher earning job once you have established the credentials to qualify for said job OR you are going to not work, live off of someone else while going to school until you gain the credentials to obtain a livable wage OR not work, collect unemployment, SS, SDI, stimmy checks and any other type of state/government assistance OR sell drugs OR sell items you obtained legally or illegally OR join the military OR rob people and pocket check people all day OR pan-handle OR go to a casino, play slots or table games and hope for a windfall OR become a content creator and showcase your talent on social media, etc, etc and etc......

The aforementioned are your choices! How is that propaganda? From whom is said propaganda coming from?

the propaganda you're spreading is that a full-time job shouldn't provide any person no matter the occupation a living wage. These companies already know what they pay workers isn't enough to live on.

Federal Social Safety Net Programs: Millions of Full-Time Workers Rely on Federal Health Care and Food Assistance Programs
Study: Taxpayers subsidize “starvation wages” at McDonald's, Walmart

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The report found that, in every state studied, Walmart was one of the top four employers whose workers rely on food stamps and Medicaid. McDonald's is among the most subsidized employers in at least nine states.

Walmart employs about 14,500 workers in Arkansas, Georgia, Indiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Nebraska, North Carolina, Tennessee and Washington who rely on Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits, the study showed, while McDonald's employs about 8,780 SNAP recipients in those states.

More than 2% of the Walmart workforce in states like Georgia and Oklahoma have had to rely on Medicaid benefits, a number that rises to more than 3% in Arkansas, where the company is based.

Other corporate giants who have a large number of workers relying on federal benefits included Amazon, Dollar Tree, Dollar General, Burger King, Wendy's, Taco Bell, Subway, Uber, FedEx, Target, Dunkin' Donuts, CVS, Home Depot, and Lowe's.

The report cited data taken before the coronavirus pandemic hit, noting that the issues have likely grown worse.

"The economic effects of the covid-19 pandemic have further exacerbated conditions for these workers, increasing the importance of federal and state safety net programs to help them meet their basic needs," the report said.
 

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the propaganda you're spreading is that a full-time job shouldn't provide any person no matter the occupation a living wage. These companies already know what they pay workers isn't enough to live on.

Federal Social Safety Net Programs: Millions of Full-Time Workers Rely on Federal Health Care and Food Assistance Programs
Study: Taxpayers subsidize “starvation wages” at McDonald's, Walmart

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Nope!

I am saying that people will have to learn how to find a way to make a living!

I am also saying that people can't depend on govt subsidies in order to make ends meet!

If you are a grown ass adult, then you have to find financial means to support yourself because govt subsidies will eventually get cut off.

Therefore. If a person is unemployed, then he or she may need to take a low wage job as a staring point to bring in income.

I am blessed to have a union job that pays well, but if I somehow lost my job, then I may have to take a low wage job temporarily until I could find a better paying job OR get retrained in another profession that pays more. The mortgage, car note, insurance, utilities and miscellaneous bills isn't gonna stop just because my financial situation changed.

I am someone who don't look down upon entry level workers. They gotta do what they gotta to do and somebody have to work these jobs.

But, that doesn't mean I don't want people to aspire to do better. I hope people use whatever job they have as a stepping stone to obtain a better paying job.

There are people who simply do not want to work. Some people don't have to work for a host of reasons. That's their business!

Since you want to debate, then please share a better alternative to the choices I have stated?

BTW, many companies are increasing their wages to attract employees, but to expect the average company to pay a substantial amount of money for each employee isn't realistic.

If people really want to make a lot of money, then they will have to work for themselves. How many people are willing or able to put in time, work and capital to make that happen?
 
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In Amerikkka the people who work the hardest get paid the least. Been like that since DAY 1.

Rich muhfukkas chilling on the golf course telling everybody else to “work hard”. :mjlol:

It’s like kingpins telling corner boys not to snitch then turning the courtroom into karaoke night
Smarter preying on the less smart
Smart people chose the easiest and most efficient options to achieve the same outcome if their circumstances allow it
 
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Nope!

I am saying that people will have to learn how to find a way to make a living!

I am also saying that people can't depend on govt subsidies in order to make ends meet!

If you are a grown ass adult, then you have to find financial means to support yourself because govt subsidies will eventually get cut off.

Therefore. If a person is unemployed, then he or she may need to take a low wage job as a staring point to bring in income.

I am blessed to have a union job that pays well, but if I somehow lost my job, then I may have to take a low wage job temporarily until I could find a better paying job OR get retrained in another profession that pays more. The mortgage, car note, insurance, utilities and miscellaneous bills isn't gonna stop just because my financial situation changed.

I am someone who don't look down upon entry level workers. They gotta do what they gotta to do and somebody have to work these jobs.

But, that doesn't mean I don't want people to aspire to do better. I hope people use whatever job they have as a stepping stone to obtain a better paying job.

There are people who simply do not want to work. Some people don't have to work for a host of reasons. That's their business!

Since you want to debate, then please share a better alternative to the choices I have stated?

BTW, many companies are increasing their wages to attract employees, but to expect the average company to pay a substantial amount of money for each employee isn't realistic.

If people really want to make a lot of money, then they will have to work for themselves. How many people are willing or able to put in time, work and capital to make that happen?

back in the 80's, do you know how many college tuitions and housing got paid-off with what is now considered a low-wage job such as working in the food service industry?

wages have not kept up with inflation or productivity like they use to.

People do want to work, they just don't want to work full-time for poverty wages. :stopitslime:
 
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back in the 80's do you know how many college tuitions and housing got paid-off with what is now considered a low-wage job such as working in the food service industry?

wages have not kept up with inflation or productivity like they use to.

People do want to work, they just don't want to work full-time for poverty wages. :stopitslime:

Some people wanna work, but not all. I am very much aware of what you have stated, but once again, what is YOUR solution?

A low wage job sucks. No debate about it. However, if a person is unemployed, then what are their options legally? Sometimes, you have to swallow your pride, humble oneself and take what you can get, then begin the process of obtaining the skills to obtain a better paying job or take a chance and start your own venture.


Companies aren’t vested in keeping up with the cost of living increases and inflation. Their primary focus is increasing their bottomline.

People have options. They can either work, like most people, or not work. The choice is theirs!
 

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Imagine caping for millionaires and billionaires who pay they workers single digits per hour (basically the same minimum wage since the 70s, when the price of buying a home has basically tripled. Damn the working class has a serious case of Stockholm syndrome. How do you chastise people working in warehouses or working fast food or any service industry when you literally need them for a functional society to keep from being a third world country. Wild
“ I don’t want these nikkas making the same amount as me ... I’m more important “:mjpls:

I work in finance, and no way is my work, where I’m simply working for a sole corporation that does not serve the general public, more important than someone who does. And there is no fukking reason a teacher shouldn’t get paid atleast close to the wage of a doctor. Health and education is just as important for each individual
 
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