Is "The Takeover" the most FACTUAL diss of all-time?

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The World Is Yours was hotter than Dead Presidents.

MC Serch said Nas got paid for any samples taken from illmatic

Lakey The Kid said they used to roll with everything from revolvers and glocks to Tec 9s and Mac 10s.
 

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I see niccas still catching feeling over a decade old beef that's been squashed for almost as long :laff:

The fact is neither of the disses did any damage as both went on with their careers...

And this was at the same time 50 was destroying careers with his diss tracks...
 

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All battle records by nature are very subjective but this one stands out for the sheer number of FACTS Jay was able to fit into it.

Lyrically it reads like a peer reviewed research paper.

"Sold more than your whole album sold in my first week" #FactsOnly
"Showed you your first Tec on tour with Large Professor" - Corroborated by those familiar with the situation
"When I was pushing weight, back in 88, you was a ballerina" - this one is up for review. likely off by more than a few years

The ENTIRE THIRD Verse is a blend of objective and subjective barbs. The ad-libs are just as vicious as the actual jabs. Listen to it and you can hear the cockiness in Jays delivery.


"you's the faq model for Karl Kani, Esco ads"

karlkaninas72.jpg

Maybe not faggy per se, but sus nonetheless.

"You Made it a hot line, I made it hot song" - Dead Presidents I and 2 are considered two of Jays strongest songs in his entire catalog.

Having listened to this record after 12 years it still sounds current. Drop some other FACTUAL disses from emcees.

:usure::russ:

besides it's 2013, stop :deadhorse:
 

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All facts.

Cam spent 52,000 on minks that year? Check.
Stan took too much ecstasy and lost his mind? Check.
Stan asked Cam for a quarter and Killa just said no? Check.
Stan whipped the whip to the superbowl in south beach and got car jacked and pistol whipped? Check.
Stan fukked Big L's album up? Check.


This is a underrated diss track right here..Stan must really got under killa skin
 

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the whole line of "i been in it 5" like he really just started. Jay made his first rap record in like 86....but dont tell that to jay himself.
 

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nikkas really think Nas never saw a Tec9 before he went on tour w/ Extra p?! The only thing corroborated was that Jay had a tec...not that itwas his 1st time seeing one. Tecs and Macs were in style like guess jeans in the 90s! Until we realised how much they jam....
"Jam like a tech, w/ correct technique"
 

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:dead: @ these clown ass nas stans ignoring the whole point of the thread just to come :cape: for their hero
 

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When I was pushin weight, back in eighty-eight
you was a ballerina I got your pictures I seen ya
Then you dropped "Shook Ones," switch your demeanor

3 lies. that wasnt in 1988, he wasnt a ballerina and he didnt drop shook ones afterwards. shook ones dropped 8 years later.

Youse the f@g model for Karl Kani/Esco ads

nothin gay nor suspect about this. anyone agreeing is a stan/laaaaame. not a fact.

Went from, Nasty Nas to Esco's trash
Had a spark when you started but now you're just garbage

2 lies. nas was still in the top running slot in 2000. also nas had way more than a spark when he started.

Fell from top ten to not mentioned at all
to your bodyguard's "Oochie Wally" verse better than yours
Matter fact you had the worst flow on the whole fukkin song
but I know - the sun don't shine, then son don't shine

2 lies. nas was still in the top running slot in 2000 and horse is not his bodyguard.

as far as the sun not shining that is not a fact. its irony though considering jayz wrote bleeks verse on RD and carried him his whole career.

Ngga; you ain't live it you witnessed it from your folks pad
You scribbled in your notepad and created your life
I showed you your first tec on tour with Large Professor
(Me, that's who!) Then I heard your album bout your tec on your dresser

3 lies. its beyond asinine if you think there is no auto-biographical tales by him and even more insane to think in the worlds largest housing projects that he never had any interaction with anyone.

also jay-z pulled out a tec and large pro admitted he had never seen a tec before but we have no confirmation from him or nas that nas had never seen one before.

flushing queens is much different from astoria

And you ain't get a coin ngga you was gettin fcked and
I know who I paid God, Serchlite Publishing

lie

"We never owned Nas publishing, Nas owns his own publishing. When Jay-Z said he paid Serchlite Publishing its a lie and he was just trying to get under Nas skin." - MC Serch


You said you been in this ten
I've been in it five - smarten up Nas
Four albums in ten years ngga? I could divide

3 lies. jay-z counted nas first appearence to amount ten years yet didnt apply the same logic to himself.

jay-z been in it 14 years already.

nas didnt drop four albums in ten years if we are counting from his debut like jay-z did for himself. he dropped 5 albums in 7 years.

watch out we run new york

even the sample is a lie. look to that big pun beef and we see who was really runnin new york at that time.

also you aint running NYC after you drop all your NY artists and sign a buncha philly nggaz.

in the end that hot beat carried takeover, that song is just an instrumental to me because everything on that record is bullsh!t.
 

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The World Is Yours was hotter than Dead Presidents.

MC Serch said Nas got paid for any samples taken from illmatic

Lakey The Kid said they used to roll with everything from revolvers and glocks to Tec 9s and Mac 10s.
I remember seeing a YouTube video them dudes talking about the biggest gun in qb fukking comedy:bryan:
 

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Nas said Jay got DSL's :huhldup:

"But since you infatuated wit sayin that gay shyt, you was kissin my dikk when u was kissin that bytch"

:laff: i'll never get over that rebuttal
But Jay kissed her after she sucked NaS'dikk first:dahell: He was even talking about marriage before the miscarriag:mjpls: Clearly Esco had already moved on since his list of famous women he's had is well documented:smugbiden:
 
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But Jay kissed her after she sucked NaS'dikk first:dahell: He was even talking about marriage before the miscarriag:mjpls: Clearly Esco had already moved on since his list of famous women he's had is well documented:smugbiden:

my post was more about Nas saying some homo shyt & Hov giving him a better picture to visualize :pachaha: who gives a shyt who did what first. Nas is a fakkit who can't keep a woman
 

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my post was more about Nas saying some homo shyt & Hov giving him a better picture to visualize :pachaha: who gives a shyt who did what first. Nas is a fakkit who can't keep a woman
But what I'm saying is the same can be said about camel. He was kissing NaS dikk,when he was kissing that bytch:youngsabo: And Jay seemed infatuated with that gay shyt himself when he was making Willie Esco model jokes:mjpls: So NaS had to visualize it for him:ahh:
 
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