Is there a scoring flu going round in the NBA?
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I'm talking about the players as they were, not some mythical version of the player that exists in a different reality.
The question is whether today's players could have put up these numbers against THAT defense. Mullin didn't put up 25+ ppg by shooting threes like Klay Thompson. He was mediocre to poor on threes and put up those numbers anyway.
I'm the troll when most the #'s you quoted had NOTHING to do with his 25 ppg scoring seasons?
I already put up his % before they shortened the line - 34.8% from 3pt. And ALL of his 25 ppg seasons were during that period, including the ones where he shot 23% and 30%. Yes he managed 45% one season as an outlier, the other two were 36% and 37%.
And as I already pointed out, when he took a 3pt shot it was almost always an open shot. He wasn't getting those %'s with anything like the defense Klay faces.
Once again, the question was whether today's players would do better or worse against that 1990s defense. If Chris Mullin could have a 27ppg season while shooting the 3pt like shyt, doesn't that mean he could easily have had 35ppg or more if he shot the 3pt like Klay Thompson does?
HE TOOK 1.2 & 1.6 ATTEMPTSIN THOSE SEASONS YOU fukkING GOOFY WHICH MEANS HE WAS
KILLING IT WITH MID RANGE JUMPERS.
IF A GUY CAN SHOOT 56% ON 2 POINTERS
WHO GIVES A fukk IF HES
TAKING 1.6 THREES A GM?
DEMAR IS AVERAGING 28
TAKING 1.8 THREES A GM
BUT KILLING THE MID RANGE.
KLAY HAS NEVER AVERAGED 28.
IN THOSE SEASONS YOU fukkING GOOFY WHICH MEANS HE WAS
KILLING IT WITH MID RANGE JUMPERS.
Which means he was NOT nailing 3pt shots and easily could have put up 7-8 more points if he was.
It's 2am in Chicago old man, I think you're too sleepy to follow this conversation. Don't you have a family and a job to worry about?
Which means he was NOT nailing 3pt shots and easily could have put up 7-8 more points if he was.
It's 2am in Chicago old man, I think you're too sleepy to follow this conversation. Don't you have a family and a job to worry about?
DID THIS OLD MUTHAfukkERWITH ALL TYPES OF HEALTH PROBLEMS
JUST CALL SOMEONE ATLEAST
10 YRS YOUNGER THAN HIM
OLD MAN?
DEMAR AVERAGING 28
ON 1.8 3P...
KLAY HAS NEVER AVERAGED 28.
RELIABLE MID RANGE >>>
IF A GUY CAN SHOOT 56% ON 2 POINTERS
WHO GIVES A fukk IF HES
TAKING 1.6 THREES A GM?
38% from 3pt is higher efficiency than 56% from 2pt, and you don't need to risk a turnover getting into the defense.
But that 56% 2pt number is heavily distorted by the fact that it was the early 1990s and fast breaks were far more common. Even in his later years (97-01, the only ones we have exact data for), 40% of Mullin's 2pt shots were in the key and Mullin was a 74% shooter at the rim, 31% in the key away from the rim, and 46% from midrange. In the early 1990s when he was younger and the game was even more wide open he would have been shooting even more at the basket and had lower midrange #'s. 46% is elite midrange but it's nowhere near as efficient as shooting 42% from 3pt like Klay does.
Shooting 46% or even 50% from midrange 2's doesn't somehow make the 3pt shot irrelevant.
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WITH ALL TYPES OF HEALTH PROBLEMS
JUST CALL SOMEONE ATLEAST
10 YRS YOUNGER THAN HIM
OLD MAN?
My health is perfectly fine, I have literally zero health problems unless you're talking mild covid shyt way back in 2020.
Do you have a family and a job or not though? It's 2am in Chicago and you're typing about Chris Mullin in red all-caps.
DEMAR AVERAGING 28
ON 1.8 3P...
KLAY HAS NEVER AVERAGED 28.
RELIABLE MID RANGE >>>
Klay could easily average 28ppg if he was the #1 guy. When Steph went out in the 2016 playoffs Klay averaged 29ppg on 47% shooting (46% from 3pt) against playoff defense even though the rest of his starting lineup was Livingston, Barnes, Draymond, and Bogut.
Klay was averaging 22ppg for the 5 years before his injury and he took ~18 possessions/game to do it. DeRozan also averaged ~22ppg outside of two outlier years but it takes him ~21 possessions/game to do it. Those 3 extra possessions make a BIG difference to your team. The only two seasons where DeRozan has averaged a lot more it's taken him 24-25 possessions/game to do it in.
FishNGrits
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Modern tech has NOTHING to do with handles. Pistol Pete would of smoked that squirt.
Michael Adams being an all-star at 5'11" with his skill set doesn't help your case.
Dawg had a wack-ass jump shot, terrible form on layups, no strength, no hops....and still averaged 27ppg one year in those "tough" 1990s.
I had to time stamp this play though, this is just too much.
And how people talking about dribbling moves when Michael Adams carried the shyt out of the ball all the time?
Imagine what Kyrie would have done to THOSE defenders.
ReturnOfJudah
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Michael Adams being an all-star at 5'11" with his skill set doesn't help your case.
Dawg had a wack-ass jump shot, terrible form on layups, no strength, no hops....and still averaged 27ppg one year in those "tough" 1990s.
I had to time stamp this play though, this is just too much.
And how people talking about dribbling moves when Michael Adams carried the shyt out of the ball all the time?
Imagine what Kyrie would have done to THOSE defenders.
Michael Adams played for a run and gun Nuggets team that played zero D. He was legit, but everybody on those nuggets team was putting up numbers
KLAY THOMPSON HAS
BEEN SHOOTING THREES
ALL HIS LIFE.
DO YOU DENSE nikkaS
REALIZE MOST PLAYERS
FROM THE 80S NEVER PLAYED
WITH ANY TYPE OF 3P LINE
AT ANY LEVEL
UNTIL THEY ENTERED THE NBA?
YOURE TAKING PERCENTAGES
FROM A RELATIVELY NEW SHOT
AND COMPARING THEM TO
PLAYERS PERCENTAGES 30 YRS LATER.
ANYONE WITH 2 EYES
KNOWS MULLIN WAS A PURE SHOOTER.
TROLL HAD THE GALL
TO MENTION 25/30% SEASONS
AND IGNORE THE 37, 37, 45% SEASONS
BEFORE THE LINE WAS SHORTENED
AND THE 44, 47, 41 & 37%
SEASONS HE HAD WHEN THE LINE
WAS RETURNED TO NORMAL.
@Rhakim IS THE FAKEST FUCC ON THIS FORUM
HE LITERALLY JUST CHERRY PICKS WHATEVER STAT HE THINKS WILL MAKE HIS DADDY LEBRON LOOK BETTER
THATS ALL HE BASES HIS BASKETBALL VIEWING ON.. AND EVERY ARGUMENT HE MAKES IS ROOTED IN THAT
I DONT THINK IVE EVER SEEN HIM DISCUSS BASKETBALL WIT NO HIDDEN LEBRON PROPPING AGENDA ATTACHED
SHIITS NUTS
Dwight Howard
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It's much easier to score in today's game. The only explanation for this.
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