Is there a scoring flu going round in the NBA?
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Gil Scott-Heroin
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In the 90's that helps my point
Saysumthinfunnymike
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That's actually where your argument always falls apart. They wouldn't be the SAME player... They would have grown up with modern technology and they would have played the game differently to adapt to today..
Just as a player from today would have dealt with different circumstances. You do realize Durant's career would be over? He wouldn't have been able to get to the point he's at without modern technology.
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It's only "easy" to score now because everybody can shoot in today's league.
Players are way better offensively than they were 20, 30 years ago.
Everytime I watch old clips of the nba, players be in situations where they have all the space in the world but won't even look at the rim. Meanwhile today we have 7 footers pulling up for threes on fastbreaks and centers winning the 3pt contest.
Idk why mfs can't accept that players today are just better offensively overall
Players are way better offensively than they were 20, 30 years ago.
Everytime I watch old clips of the nba, players be in situations where they have all the space in the world but won't even look at the rim. Meanwhile today we have 7 footers pulling up for threes on fastbreaks and centers winning the 3pt contest.
Idk why mfs can't accept that players today are just better offensively overall
Saysumthinfunnymike
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You mean the 3 point shot.. which they've all practiced now for years before entering the league. A lot of them have TRASH 3 level games.. that's the problem when the 3 not falling many guys can't get into the mid/lane and be effective.
You're seeing guys add up these 50+ pts games because a lot of the pts are coming off made threes. They get plenty of open shots too because yes perimeter defense on a lot of teams is trash
Yea all those 3’s and open shots Ben Simmons takes, I completely understand your point here. We definitely dont see that happen now a days.
"All types of players"lol
all types of players dropping 40+ in the NBA these days
what's going on?
These aren't role players putting up these numbers
You didn't even realize these two claims cancel each other out.
How can you claim the lack of defensive 3 seconds would be helpful unless you're giving up jump shots?
And if zone defense makes shyt easier on the offense, then they would simply stop doing it. Most players score on jump shots in today's game because they HAVE to, because zone defenses neutralize iso and post play and cut off driving lanes too easily unless you have a bunch of jump shooters to open up the court.
No, because you weren't allowed to be in the paint unless your man was in the paint and you weren't allowed to double off-ball. You could only double the paint if you stayed on you man until the other guy got the ball and then committed completely to the double. It added a delay time that made shyt way easier and it made it more risky to double because you left you guy wide open (and the other defenders couldn't hedge towards them), which is why guys like McHale and Barkley could take their time developing a slow-ass play on the block against a helpless defender.
Even when they did throw the double as quick as possible, it was usually ineffective. Here's an elite high IQ team who would win the title (the 1984 Celtics) trying to defend against truck driver Jeff Ruland. Despite the fact that he's slow as fukk with no elevation and no range outside 8 feet, they pretty much feel helpless against Ruland one-on-one and throw the double-team immediately every time a pass comes in. His teammates don't help by giving him zero spacing. And yet he scores over and over again because the weak-ass doubles are out of position almost every time.
Here's another example of out hard it could be to double back then. 6'6" Michael Jordan is backing down 5'3" Muggsy Bogues. They clear out that side and Muggsy is totally helpless. They don't want to double because they have to go too far. So they have to leave Muggsy on an island against a player 15" taller than himself, though surprisingly he makes an elite play and strips MJ.....only for illegal defense to be called because the defenders were hedging into the key too long.
Zone defense is ELEMENTARY hoops. That's the Fisher-Price of defense which is why it was played on the lower levels. By design there is someone always open and a spot you can get to. Compare that to having someone glued at your hip the majority of the time, and how is it easier? You do not have to move the entire offensive possession to get open, just wait. Whereas man to man you have to try to get open, and beat your man, get separation by being in constant motion, fight to get to your spots etc. That's also why this current NBA doesn't like physical play.
Now of course, if you're that talented, you can easily find ways to beat your man and get to the spots you want, but all of those wide open 3s ain't happening...and definitely those wide open paths to the lane, because of Illegal Offense.
And you really shytted on Mullin, like his skillset wasn't top tier. He was just deceptively slow, but that J was lightning quick. His other problem is he was stone cold drunk 1/2 the time.
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Ben simmons is made fun of and is considered a liability at times because he won't shoot. Ben simmons is an outlier in today's game
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These nba players are so good it's hard to guard anyone one on one these days. I know you seen the team USA king of the court video. And since you can't touch players on the perimeter if the ball handler gets a step on you or has the angle you can't do shyt individually as a defender to stop the ball handler.
And if the big that's supposed to be help side has to worry about a stretch 4 or 5 the lane is gonna be open everytime or the defense will just get picked apart from good passes. I see this everyday when I watch games.
I think that ball handling and strength is what helps players with their in between game. Look at jaylen brown. And it seems like role players are discouraged by their coaches from taking mid range shots so when they get in that situation they over think and fukk up.
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If anything this says more about the level of defense that's played in the league during the regular season
During the regular season, ticky tacky fouls get called to preserve the bodies of players
In the playoffs, not so much. They "let em play".
Every shot counts and you have limited room for error or L's so it's a lot less of this 140 and 150 type scores looking like a soft All-Star game
So let em cook for now...that shyt is over in about a month, and you're gonna see a much different defensive effort from the teams on the court
During the regular season, ticky tacky fouls get called to preserve the bodies of players
In the playoffs, not so much. They "let em play".
Every shot counts and you have limited room for error or L's so it's a lot less of this 140 and 150 type scores looking like a soft All-Star game
So let em cook for now...that shyt is over in about a month, and you're gonna see a much different defensive effort from the teams on the court
"All types of players"
These aren't role players putting up these numbers
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