Is there a scoring flu going round in the NBA?
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You didn't even realize these two claims cancel each other out.
How can you claim the lack of defensive 3 seconds would be helpful unless you're giving up jump shots?
And if zone defense makes shyt easier on the offense, then they would simply stop doing it. Most players score on jump shots in today's game because they HAVE to, because zone defenses neutralize iso and post play and cut off driving lanes too easily unless you have a bunch of jump shooters to open up the court.
No, because you weren't allowed to be in the paint unless your man was in the paint and you weren't allowed to double off-ball. You could only double the paint if you stayed on you man until the other guy got the ball and then committed completely to the double. It added a delay time that made shyt way easier and it made it more risky to double because you left you guy wide open (and the other defenders couldn't hedge towards them), which is why guys like McHale and Barkley could take their time developing a slow-ass play on the block against a helpless defender.
Even when they did throw the double as quick as possible, it was usually ineffective. Here's an elite high IQ team who would win the title (the 1984 Celtics) trying to defend against truck driver Jeff Ruland. Despite the fact that he's slow as fukk with no elevation and no range outside 8 feet, they pretty much feel helpless against Ruland one-on-one and throw the double-team immediately every time a pass comes in. His teammates don't help by giving him zero spacing. And yet he scores over and over again because the weak-ass doubles are out of position almost every time.
Here's another example of out hard it could be to double back then. 6'6" Michael Jordan is backing down 5'3" Muggsy Bogues. They clear out that side and Muggsy is totally helpless. They don't want to double because they have to go too far. So they have to leave Muggsy on an island against a player 15" taller than himself, though surprisingly he makes an elite play and strips MJ.....only for illegal defense to be called because the defenders were hedging into the key too long.
Former NBA player and NBA champion Jason Williams explains why he thinks this era is tougher to score in.
But what does a guy who actually played in the league know about basketball? Internet nerds know much more about the game than he does
Former NBA player and NBA champion Jason Williams explains why he thinks this era is tougher to score in.
But what does a guy who actually played in the league know about basketball? Internet nerds know much more about the game than he does
He also said Kobe isn't a top 5 Laker. Who cares what he says.
madness
Taking my talents to South Beach
Agreed, who cares what a former professional basketball player says about his profession. I’d rather listen to the opinions of nerds on the internet
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Former NBA player and NBA champion Jason Williams explains why he thinks this era is tougher to score in.
But what does a guy who actually played in the league know about basketball? Internet nerds know much more about the game than he does
mj said out his own mouth he would not have had the career he did playing against zone defense
he like 99.9% of players were against that change
motherfukkers ready to fight their lord & savior just to protect that legacy
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So one bad take invalidates all your arguments?
If so, we shouldn't listen to most of the posters on here
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
Is “statpadding” a new word discovered in the coli?
Niccas watch one segment from Skip and thought they got something
I don’t even think y’all niccas know what statpadding is
Niccas watch one segment from Skip and thought they got something
I don’t even think y’all niccas know what statpadding is
Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
Bunch of guys stand around and watch another three point shot go up.
"great defense"
"great defense"
I LOVE THE WAY YOU
nikkaS PRETEND TEAMS
REALLY PLAY ZONE ALL GAME.
WHEN IN REALITY
THE OFFENSIVE PLAYER HUNTS
FOR SWITCHES ALL NIGHT
AND GOES 1 ON 1 AGAINST
MISMATCHES.
YOU BARELY SEE ZONE DEFENSE
FOR NO MORE THAN A FEW
MINUTES IF THEY EVEN USE IT
BECAUSE ITS VERY EASY TO BEAT
IF YOU HAVE SHOOTERS
ON THE FLOOR.
nikkaS PRETEND TEAMS
REALLY PLAY ZONE ALL GAME.
WHEN IN REALITY
THE OFFENSIVE PLAYER HUNTS
FOR SWITCHES ALL NIGHT
AND GOES 1 ON 1 AGAINST
MISMATCHES.
YOU BARELY SEE ZONE DEFENSE
FOR NO MORE THAN A FEW
MINUTES IF THEY EVEN USE IT
BECAUSE ITS VERY EASY TO BEAT
IF YOU HAVE SHOOTERS
ON THE FLOOR.
Former NBA player and NBA champion Jason Williams explains why he thinks this era is tougher to score in.
But what does a guy who actually played in the league know about basketball? Internet nerds know much more about the game than he does
Steve Kerr said the same shyt - he was an integral 25 minutes/game player for the 96-98 Bulls but claims he wouldn't even make the NBA in this era. But they don't want to hear it.
Steve Kerr: ‘There’s no way I could have played in the NBA today’
Best defensive era tho
Nah man, MJ doesn't know shyt about the zone defense. Let's believe the posters in here who claim it's a "middle school system" and "easy to score against".
IF ZONE DEFENSES COME IN, STARS MAY GO OUT
Even Michael Jordan Thought Michael Jordan Would Struggle Against Modern Zone Defense
MJ on rule changes: "If teams were able to play zone defenses, I never would've had the career I had."
MJ was completely contained against the zone in college (was upset early in back-to-back ACC tourneys and back-to-back NCAA tourneys once he became the star) despite being on a stacked team and surrounded by NBA-level players. The same 20-21 yo MJ that has multiple threads in here talking about how dominant he was and claiming he could lead a bunch of college players to wins against pros couldn't even beat college teams of far less talented upstarts because they used a zone effectively against him. But it was "easy" to score on?
Jeff Ruland said the same thing about the NBA being easier for stars to score in than college was:
How did he explain the scouting reports, which said he was too slow and questioned his ability to play defense and whether he could make it in the pros?
''This is pro basketball,'' he replied, smiling. ''There are no zone defenses with four guys hanging all over me. I wonder if the pro scouts realized that in the N.B.A. they play man-to-man.''
JEFF RULAND: SURPRISING ROOKIE (Published 1982)
GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW MOST CACS ARE SOULLESS
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THE 2 PLAYERS QUOTED TO DISPUTE THE FACTS ARE WHITEBOYS?
THEY CANT HELP THEMSELVES
BTW IM NOT LETTIN GO OF THAT HOE SHIIT U PULLED .. “I HAVE DIRT ON U BUT WONT SAY BECAUSE ITS MEAN!!!!” LMFAO .. THATS THE PROTOTYPICAL BIITCH MOVE. IF LEGIT, U EITHER DONT SAY NOTHIN OR LET IT ALL OUT IF U GONE SPEAK ON IT. SO WHAT IT DO? HIT MY PM IF ITS WHAT U SAY IT IS. OTHERWISE, THATS STR8 SUCKA SHIIT.
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C L O N E*0690//////
I LOVE THE WAY YOU
nikkaS PRETEND TEAMS
REALLY PLAY ZONE ALL GAME.
WHEN IN REALITY
THE OFFENSIVE PLAYER HUNTS
FOR SWITCHES ALL NIGHT
AND GOES 1 ON 1 AGAINST
MISMATCHES.
YOU BARELY SEE ZONE DEFENSE
FOR NO MORE THAN A FEW
MINUTES IF THEY EVEN USE IT
BECAUSE ITS VERY EASY TO BEAT
IF YOU HAVE SHOOTERS
ON THE FLOOR.
1on1 then & 1on1 now look very different*
