is Vince Carter a top 20 SG/SF?

[stepbackj34spud]

Vince is not better than Ray

2 time champion 10 time allstar

Leading nba three record holder

The dude actually got robbed for allstar MVP and finals MVP in the same year

1. Ray Allen was not the best player on any of those teams, not even the second best.
2. Ray Allen is a product of good luck. Ray Allen made 4 all star teams by being an injury replacement.
2. Who cares about being the leading 3 point shooter. Worthless accolade.
3. Paul Pierce was the best player in the 2008 Finals. He lead the Celtics in scoring and assists, and won the finals mvp award unanimously.

You seem like some butthurt Ray Allen fan. Get out of here man.

 

[AJtheOne]

Gotta go look at his attempts per game and fg pct%

I might be right

Again

 

[stepbackj34spud]

You tried to say Vince was a role player and I proved you were very wrong. Role players don't avg 20 + per game This shouldn't even be an argument I'm starting to think you're trolling

Vince Carter was by far the best player on those Nets team. nikkas cant be serious.



Vince Carter was a great, great player man. It really bothers me when dudes say he's not a hall of famer or he underachieved. Vince had a hell of a career and was one of the best players of his generation. When it comes to SG of his generation, he's only behind Kobe, Wade, AI and T-mac IMO.

 

[stepbackj34spud]

If the Tor/NJ version of VC played in todays league, he'd be the best SG in the nba. That's how deep the 00s were when it came to SG & SFs.

 

[AJtheOne]

If the Tor/NJ version of VC played in todays league, he'd be the best SG in the nba. That's how deep the 00s were when it came to SG & SFs.

Yup I agree, hands down

 

[DIMES]

1. Ray Allen was not the best player on any of those teams, not even the second best.
2. Ray Allen is a product of good luck. Ray Allen made 4 all star teams by being an injury replacement.
2. Who cares about being the leading 3 point shooter. Worthless accolade.
3. Paul Pierce was the best player in the 2008 Finals. He lead the Celtics in scoring and assists, and won the finals mvp award unanimously.

You seem like some butthurt Ray Allen fan. Get out of here man.

Breh Paul is on my faves but come on...
Ray played better than Pierce in the 2008 finals. Pierce didn't lead no assists either and Ray was so much more efficient and out rebounded him. He actually was better in every single category except assists. He got that hometown nod



Got robbed for 08 allstar game mvp

 

[stepbackj34spud]

Breh Paul is on my faves but come on...
Ray played better than Pierce in the 2008 finals. Pierce didn't lead no assists either and Ray was so much more efficient and out rebounded him. He actually was better in every single category except assists. He got that hometown nod



Got robbed for 08 allstar game mvp

Paul Pierce lead the Celtics in ppg and apg in the finals, why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
Ray Allen scored like 30pts in a game 6 blowout.. The Lakers were down by like 20 and he was still shooting open 3s. Thats the only reason it seems close. It wasnt close though because nobody who watched the 2008 finals who wasnt a ray allen fan thought Ray was the best player that series. Pierce was voted unanimously(look up the definition of this word before/if you reply) the finals mvp.

Nonody cares about all-star games mvps man. Was he robbed? Who cares, if Nelson wasnt injured, he wouldnt have been there anyway.

 

[DIMES]

Paul Pierce lead the Celtics in ppg and apg in the finals, why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
Ray Allen scored like 30pts in a game 6 blowout.. The Lakers were down by like 20 and he was still shooting open 3s. Thats the only reason it seems close. It wasnt close though because nobody who watched the 2008 finals who wasnt a ray allen fan thought Ray was the best player that series. Pierce was voted unanimously(look up the definition of this word before/if you reply) the finals mvp.

Rondo led the assists. Stop saying that. Pierce averaged 1 more point on 43% while Ray shot near 51% on his

The dude pierce had a terrible game 3 with only 6 points breh

6 points

 

[stepbackj34spud]

Rondo led the assists. Stop saying that. Pierce averaged 1 more point on 43% while Ray shot near 51% on his

The dude pierce had a terrible game 3 with only 6 points breh

6 points

You're right, Rondo lead Pierce by .4.
Again, it's only close because of the game 6 39 point blowout win where Ray Allen was shooting wide open 3s while the Lakers were down 20. Before that blowout win, Ray was on 19ppg on 47%. Out of the 4 wins, Pierce was better than Ray in game 1, 2 and 4. Pierce got all nine votes for FMVP for a reason.

 

[GreatestLaker]

There were a couple of years in the NBA in the early 2000's where Vince was as valuable as anybody currently playing. How do you guys forget? He was neck and neck with the best for a bit there.

He is easily a top 10 SG of all time.

Neck and neck with who? Prime Vince was a top 10 player, but he was in the lower end of the top 10.

 

[///Vega+++]

Canada should really be thanking him for single handedly putting basketball on the map for them. Wouldn't have had an nba team if it wasn't for him.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

Hockey dominated that country breh.

Vince Carter laid the foundation for the popularity of basketball in Canada.

That team in Vancouver failed. The only reason why the Toronto franchise didn't was because of Vinsanity.

 

[CarltonJunior]

Jordan
Kobe
Wade
Sam "Mr.Clutch" Jones
Jerry "The Logo" West
Clyde Drexler
Ray Allen
Iverson
Ginobili
Earl "Black Jesus" Monroe


Honorable Mention: George Gervin, Tracy McGrady, and Vince Carter

Jerry West is a point guard, and a 70's player, if you're going to have old ass players that you've never seen play then you should atleast have Havlicek. Clyde isn't better than VC neither at his peak nor throughout his career despite him having more team success throughout his career, same with Ginobili.

 

[Black Lightning]

Aside from dunking, what could he do?

Couldn't shoot or post up, only had one meaningful playoff run so to say top 20 all timeat sg/sf.. no.

The guy underachieved.

23,969 Points(24th all time)
1937 3P(6th all time)

 

[William F. Russell]

Jerry West is a point guard, and a 70's player, if you're going to have old ass players that you've never seen play then you should atleast have Havlicek. Clyde isn't better than VC neither at his peak nor throughout his career despite him having more team success throughout his career, same with Ginobili.

1. I've seen all the "old ass players" that I've listed play, albeit via replays of entire games shown on ESPN Classic/NBATV/Youtube. But, say if I didn't and we were to use your logic, does that mean that anybody under the age of 50 shouldn't be able to say that Muhammad Ali was one of the greatest boxers of all time? Does that mean that anybody under the age of 60 shouldn't be able to say that Bill Russell or Wilt Chamberlain weren't among the best to ever play in the NBA?

2. West was primarily a shooting guard, although he played point guard also. Hence, he should be acknowledged as one of the best SGs ever.

3. Havlicek definitely deserves praise but we're talking about best SGs of all time and Havlicek played primary as a SF. Hence, no discussion on Havlicek.

4. Clyde > Carter and it really isn't a debate. Clyde is the Trailblazers' all-time leading scorer and was an NBA champ, a 10x all-star, a Dream Team member, and a 5x all-NBA Team member. In the 94/95 NBA Finals, he averaged 22ppg, 10rpg, and 7apg as he and Hakeem led the Rockets to a championship. In his best statistical regular season (88/89), he averaged 27ppg (while shooting just a shade under 50% from the field), 6apg, 8rpg, and almost 2.7spg. Moreover, he was the prototype of the kind of player Vince Carter was in his prime.