It hurts to see how Saigon's career turned out

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

he shouldn't have gone on entourage. that kind of fukked up his credibility, imo.

I forgot about that. It was his biggest look and he didn't follow up in time. I guess he dropped the ball. Or it was his label. Who knows?

Him and Papoose kind of dropped the ball...they were slated to have next and then...they just fell off.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

I don't really remember it too well but i think he was simpin some video girl askin to take her out to go get ice cream or some shyt and she played him so he caught feelings and started gettin at her on social media...after that she exposed him, they had an argument on the radio (shade45) and made up but even after the argument saigon was still tryin to simp the broad lol..it was a long time ago but i think i got the story right

He said he was gonna punch one of those video hoes in the face.

 

[Wise]

Saigon and Papoose will always be linked together for me. I was livin in Ohio in 2005 and at work, nikkaz was like "Sai got next" "Pap got next". I kept waiting and waiting, but it never happened

Just like me.

Do you know how many times Papoose would say "The Nacirema Dream coming soon"

THAT shyt CAME OUT 7 YEARS LATER! By 08 I was done with him. I always liked Pap but I would admit Saigon was much more talented.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

Didn't he get in a barfight too, and flee on his mans back piggy-back style?

I might have just made that up, though

He punched Prodigy in the face at a show back then and fled like that.

I remember the thread on SOHH. Too many jokes.

That photoshop of Saigon on the back of that flying dog from "The Neverending Story"....LOL!

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

You would think Love&Hip-Hop would below the standards for a guy that made Warning Shots and Greatest Story Never Told, but anything to sustain that lifestyle, right

L&HH is the new graveyard for washed up rappers.

 

[Buckeye Fever]

Just like me.

Do you know how many times Papoose would say "The Nacirema Dream coming soon"

THAT shyt CAME OUT 7 YEARS LATER! By 08 I was done with him. I always liked Pap but I would admit Saigon was much more talented.

Yeah man, the worst thing an artist, especially an artist who isn't established can do is constantly keep fans waiting

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

actually he had a few good reasons

1) hiphop left atlantic, thus weakening his standing at the label
2) Saigon refused to conform to atlantic, so they shelved him (we don't know what just offered him music wise i.e. singles to possibly push this along)
3) sai trashed just a bit in the media as a result
4) a better mc named jay electronica came along, while sai seemed to be at a stagnant point. just didn't throw him in the bushes, but wasn't gonna stand with him while he stood there.

Hip Hop leaving Atlantic is one thing. Forgetting about homey is another. As soon as it was clear Saigon wasn't going to 'blow up' Just Blaze stops fukking with him? Sai took shots in the media after Just Blaze's very famous snide remarks/back handed compliments he does in his interview.

The Jay Electronica thing was a bad move but he brushed he hands of that one real fast, just like he did with Saigon.

 

[Shogun]

He punched Prodigy in the face at a show back then and fled like that.

I remember the thread on SOHH. Too many jokes.

That photoshop of Saigon on the back of that flying dog from "The Neverending Story"....LOL!

ah shyt thats right

that was a SOHH classic

 

[DeuceZ]

whatever happened...it hurts to see how wicked the rap game is...more people know dem franchize boys than Saigon....think about that

 

[NV-ME]

Hip Hop leaving Atlantic is one thing. Forgetting about homey is another. As soon as it was clear Saigon wasn't going to 'blow up' Just Blaze stops fukking with him? Sai took shots in the media after Just Blaze's very famous snide remarks/back handed compliments he does in his interview.

The Jay Electronica thing was a bad move but he brushed he hands of that one real fast, just like he did with Saigon.

nah, man. yall making it seem like just ditched these dudes soon as they got lukewarm, but he stood by them and still does, but their bullheadedness (Saigon) & work ethic/adjustment to fame (jay elec) hasn't been the best course of actions for their careers. just was established, but he aint these dudes father bound to hold their hand throughout this whole process. he still got a career and he's stood by them, regardless. maybe he took a minor shot at sai, but that dude has had some issues. overall, can you look at both of those dudes and say just is to blame for anything?

the answer is no.

 

[beenz]

he shouldn't have gone on entourage. that kind of fukked up his credibility, imo.

that didn't fukk up his credibility. it was him NOT dropping his album when he was actually on entourage that fukked him. he waited until a few years after the show was cancelled, then drops a dope album that goes wood.

 

[Dettol]

Saigon is on those dumb atlanta hiphop reality shows? SMH.
Shows how much I'm outta the loop these days...

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

nah, man. yall making it seem like just ditched these dudes soon as they got lukewarm, but he stood by them and still does, but their bullheadedness (Saigon) & work ethic/adjustment to fame (jay elec) hasn't been the best course of actions for their careers. just was established, but he aint these dudes father bound to hold their hand throughout this whole process. he still got a career and he's stood by them, regardless. maybe he took a minor shot at sai, but that dude has had some issues. overall, can you look at both of those dudes and say just is to blame for anything?

the answer is no.

He did ditch them when they got luke warm. He went from pushing Saigon and producing his album to not even returning his phone calls?

Jay Electronica's work ethic NEVER changed, Just Blaze tried to jump on the bandwagon, hyped Exhibit C a ton, but once that buzz fadded Just Blaze decided that he was an EDM DJ....you know cuz that's the hot trend.

Yes Just is to blame for something. He was the industry heavy weight helping Saigon. It was all gravy when he was on TV but as soon as he didn't blow up like people thought, he takes shots in interviews?

You are defending Just Blaze for no reason on this one.

 

[George's Dilemma]

I think the main thing thing that fukked up Sai's career was him and Just sitting on The Greatest Story Never Told for too long. By the time the album dropped, the iron wasn't exactly hot anymore. His buzz for that album was never scorching hot, but there was enough buzz around it where it could have been in a stepping stone towards broader success in the same vein that Ready to Die and Illmatic lead to greater commercial success for BIG and Nas with their follow up records. Sai sat on that album so long that it eventually morphed into the Hip Hop version of Mayweater vs Pacquiao or Detox. I think Jay Electronica is making the same mistake right now. Rap artists can only be enigmas for so long before their core fans eventually give up on then and when that happens it's like an abortion for any aspirations of mass appeal. Kendrick Lamar is an example of someone who struck while the iron was hot. He dropped two mixtapes that were as good as any legitimate albums by any of his contemporaries, and then Section 80 turned out to be a solid debut. Rather than waste time, Interscrope and TDE went to work put out a follow up album in a reasonable amount of time to capitalize off of what already existed. To me the best way to illustrate it is going out to dinner one night, ordering an appetizer, being satisfied with it but dying for the main course. You tip your waitress well when she brings dinner on time. When it takes too long, you vow never to return.............see Saigon.

 

[smokeurobinson]

all dude needs is a hit song and the bandwagon will commence just like it did for 2chainz. fuk all that "could 'ves would'ves" a Hit song is the key to comebacks and new buzz.

Does anyone remember the radio interview when they asked 50 Cent what his thoughts on Saigon where and were expecting him to say something positive but instead he kept it funky and just said "Saigon is a fukking bum"?

Saigon put that interview on his Welcome To Saigon DVD.