You're trying to frame their success in terms of something that was very much peripheral to it which is dishonest, unless you're trying to tell me that when his buzz was growing the majority of what people had to say revolved around his 'indieness' That is not the case and you said it yourself, it has everything to do with the quality of the music.. In the midst of all the cynical marketing and industry machinations people want to hear music and artists fail or succeed on the basis of their appeal in that regard.
Yes some people were dumb enough to mistake the bohemian image TDE cultivated for "an indie movement" but you'd have to be equally dumb to even humour them and you'd have to be even dumber to think that was at the centre of what was going on.
Yet you're trying to tell me that if I haven't seen many people spouting shyt about grassroots indie movement that's my problem and I'm non cognizant and lost in the sauce? If in all this that's the shyt that stands out to you then that really is your problem.
Drake is half white, Jewish, from Toronto, caters to a largely female audience and is fixated on R&B. Kendrick is black, was born in Compton and raps about his life there. If you think the most pertinent point of comparison people make between those two relates to promo and indie aesthetics then you're delusional.
If the crux of your argument boils down to "fools on the internet said such an such", then the chances are you're fixated on the wrong thing.
Then what exactly is the issue here? Anybody that knew the extent of the Dre cosign and saw Kendrick's buzz growing should have been able to put two and two together. The specifics of when a deal was cut is irrelevant. Once it was clear that the potential was there it became an inevitability. We know how Dre has operated with new artists in the past and Kendrick hadn't done or said anything to imply that he wasn't amenable to signing with a major, so who was deceived in all this? Ya'll are trying to make this out to be far more than what it actually is.
lol. i didnt even read that chit.
youre just out-the-loop. point blank period.
nothing to argue about.
Currensy?
And yes, some of these guys are astroturf'd. I don't remember people from New York talking about ASAP Rocky or seeing him before the blogs picked him up. However I honestly don't care much because I like some of his music
currensy's success is pure but he didnt exactly blow up neither.
asap rocky is a plant as well. whats your point?
Says the nikka with 3000 posts....
SO where do u go that hear the term industry plant? Most nikkas offline dont give a fukk.
what does a post count have to do with anything. thats a stupid logic. you must surround yourself with simpletons. these labels are gearing this chit right at people like you.
and homie, theres people in their 70s that know what an industry plant is.
how in the hell
does the term sound foreign to you.
Exactly.
There is you scratch my back ill scratch yours going on. You put this artist up, I give you access to _____.
I don't get the outrage either. Ill use Drake as an example, I really don't care if the guy was created in a lab with DNA sliced from rappers of years past or not. I think he makes damn good mainstream Hip Hop. Whether he really started from the bottom or not, the music is good. fukk it. Some people are too old to be worrying about the 'backstory' anyways.
the thing is, if the music was really that good, he wouldnt have to be planted.
he didnt even have a buzz in toronto.
toronto.
Oh I know Drake is one of those right time/luck types but people swear he was a plant.
Muhfukkas don't know the difference between LMFAO and Schoolboy Q
drake was the biggest plant of them all.
hes also the one that set the blueprint for the plantation.
