Singles J. Cole - Snow On Tha Bluff (Official Audio)

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yep she deleted her tweet right after j cole was marching and protesting in his hometown

And therein lies the point. If it wasn't about either of those two, there would be no need to delete that tweet. She won't apologize for that either, because that would mean that she really did mean those two and I don't think she really wanted the smoke that'd come with it.

The real discussion should be about what I mentioned earlier (and what Dave pointed out much more eloquently than I did): the consequences of pressuring black celebrities to speak out. We can't have it both ways where we want celebrities to speak out until they say something we don't like.

And I don't dislike Noname at all, in fact, I think she's clearly doing quite a lot. But I don't agree with what she said at all.

I understand shaming illiteracy on new leftist stances about hot button issues when everybody is sharing resources online but "radical" ideas like police abolition were not well known 2 months ago. I don't know exactly what Noname has said in the past, but learning can be a very exclusionary process, so Cole is addressing this attitude of soapbox activism which he perceives creates enemies out of the same black Americans she's trying to help. I also think it's fair to say Cole is off-base in making a song about this of all things in the midst of everything. But he's not wrong either; consider the fact that most people get their political takes from 280 character tweets - what does that tell you about education in this country? And how much more is lacking in the common pedagogy?

Twitter Political Activism is a real thing that's been developing since 2013, so come 2020, it's no surprise that this is where we're at. Social media can be a very powerful tool if used correctly. Exposing racists, combating against established mainstream media outlets in an information war for the truth, showing the world an eye-level view of what's truly going on in the streets.. We'd be in trouble if we didn't have it right now. The problem is, Twitter is a public place where all you need is an internet connection and an email address, so anyone and everyone has a voice. And as we're acutely aware of by now, not every voice is a voice you want to hear from. Not every opinion will nourish and enrich your mind and form more rounded perspectives.

On Instagram, everyone that's in my social networking circle (be it black, white, whatever) is sharing information on protesting, Black Lives Matter support, calling for the abolition of law enforcement, opening dialogue on what's racist and why it's racist... a ton of things. The information is floating around, so the lack of it isn't a problem. What if people have questions? People say, "Google isn't hard, motherfukker." Okay, but where do you start? We need everyone on the same page, and expecting people to just "know" things will cause more harm than good. We don't even know if Cole is necessarily referring to himself in this song.

Snoop Dogg, at his age, didn't even know he could vote because he was led to believe that his criminal history prevented him from doing so. Offset I think also just voted in his State for the first time for similar reasons. Two rappers from two completely different generations, whose music don't even sound remotely alike, both thought the same thing. And Snoop is actively on social media. Do you think those two would want to listen to someone speaking down on them? Of course not, and most wouldn't. Soapbox Activism definitely can backfire, because look at how many people on this very same website reject that part of Twitter and call them "Shea Butter Twitter"? Cole isn't wrong, and it might ruffle feathers, but people really do function that way.
 

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this did not even happen, this song is about her calling him out for not tweeting:mjlol:how do you spin that into this

because they live in a twitter bubble.

i guarantee most of them didn't listen to the song and 99% of them definitely didn't listen twice and even ponder what he's saying beyond "let's cancel him for going at our girl"

there's literally a tweet out there where someone said that he should have said her name, when she subtweeted him in the first place.

the fukk? these people are disturbed and fragile. they just out here checking for twitter daps most likely. no substance or thought at all.
 

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Another irksome aspect of this debacle is the weight that some are giving one person’s activism over another’s: ” He wrote songs, but she started a book club.” Or, “He went to a couple of marches, but she’s been sharing resources and sending literature to prisons.” Point blank, all of the aforesaid actions are important to the struggle. Who are we to dictate how one should engage in their activism and to what extent they should be active?

Also, we have to realize and accept that everyone doesn’t get down with the “it’s not my job to educate you” logic. Many of us enjoy genuinely engaging in the education and/or flat out schooling of those who aren’t privy. Yes, there is always the risk of taxation when employing this praxis. However, to reiterate, one’s own orientation need not dictate the will of another. As such, there is no need to accuse someone of misogynoir for merely asking that you broaden your approach. Not because i value my masculinity over your struggle, but because I understand that we all have differing points of departure.
 

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You right twitter has went from supporting one another with these protests and saying how much we should love one another, to a gender war about black men and women in the last 3 days. It makes no sense how much they let stupid shyt distract them from the main problem.
These radicalized black feminists online really are jealous and envious of the attention that black men get when we die
 
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