J Cole The Fall Off 2/6 Anticipation and Discussion thread

[spliz]

Im wondering this too. Neither of them deep, both basic ass lyricist no clue what these nikkas be listening too lol. Never heard a kendrick song and didn't understand what hes saying. Never had to rewind a line, his "deepest " shyt probably section 80 and that's 2 decades ago at this point.

nikkas in here talkin like that nikka Lupe Fiasco or some shyt. Lol

 

[Loose]

nikkas in here talkin like that nikka Lupe Fiasco or some shyt. Lol

Right lol, I'd rather a nikka just be real and say you prefer kendrick that's fine. But trying to hold him up as some top hip-hop lyricist is laughable , he's closer to a pac style lyricist hes pretty up and down straight forward then an actual lyrical demon. I never heard kendrick bars and went damn the double triple entendres and metaphors is crazy with this one. He aint some crazy lyricist. He pretty vanilla

 

[gluvnast]

As far as the Kendrick/Cole debates...like let's be fukking real here, J. Cole is extremely surface-level with his shyt. He's probably superior as a pure rapper but on pretty much every level as an artist J. Cole isn't on Kendrick's level and it shows in their catalogues.

The idea of J. Cole is better than the genuine article

I want to speak on this where I strongly disagree. I will say, Kendrick as a recording artist is greater than J. Cole. Dot has amazing ideas and concepts for his songs and music. But he's VERY MUCH SURFACE LEVEL. There's isn't anything deep in what Kendrick does. This is what Lupe been arguing who isn't at all surface level and arguably more lyrical than Kendrick in terms of ideas and concepts. Kendrick is more Joyner Lucas but more marketable.

In contrast, J. Cole isn't trying to be cryptic. He's straight forward. And a lot of fans appreciate the direct and forwardness of his songs. Whereas Kendrick has a gimmick where people must decode whatever meaning he's putting out. Sometimes people be making up or misinterpret it when it's never that deep to begin with.

At the end of the day, I judge things as who's the better MC. Not recording artist, but actual EMCEEING. Being that MC that moves and touch the crowd. And time and time again, J. Cole gives people something that has struck accord to their lives. This trunk tour documentary series is evident of how these fans truly honor what Cole has done for them and their lives. You have people making live decisions due to song's music, feel inspired, naming their newborns after them and so on. It's something I rarely seen with other rappers. Kendrick included even though I'm sure he has his fans, but nothing that I've witnessed with J. Cole and his fanbase. That's what MCs supposed to be, to move the crowd.

 

[Pure Water]

edit: nvm

 

[904]

Right lol, I'd rather a nikka just be real and say you prefer kendrick that's fine. But trying to hold him up as some top hip-hop lyricist is laughable , he's closer to a pac style lyricist hes pretty up and down straight forward then an actual lyrical demon. I never heard kendrick bars and went damn the double triple entendres and metaphors is crazy with this one. He aint some crazy lyricist. He pretty vanilla

So is Nas not a great lyricist?

 

[Piff Perkins]

yall still talking about kendrick huh

 

[Loose]

So is Nas not a great lyricist?

Nas a much much much much better lyricist then kendrick

 

[FunkDoc1112]

But nikkas said I single-handedly derailed this thread and my posts were exclusively inciting Stan wars

I ain’t posted in almost 10 days and yall still dropping Kendrick’s name in every post

Turns out nikkas ain’t want the smoke so they singled me out, kinda crazy ngl

Nobody wants to respond to your useless ass chatgpt posts

 

[Grand_Verbalizer]

If you think making yourself hard to understand on purpose is good lyricism I feel sorry for you

 

[Grand_Verbalizer]

 

[H. Selassie]

Yall spending more energy on Kendrick than dissecting this actual project…very telling

 

[904]

Nas a much much much much better lyricist then kendrick

How so, he's not heavily metaphorical or deep in entendres

What makes a great lyricist to you?

 

[Loose]

How so, he's not heavily metaphorical or deep in entendres

What makes a great lyricist to you?

Wordplay and creativeness
Elite story telling ( see illmatic)
Lyrical depth ( see nas verse on Verbal Intercourse)
Technical skill and structure ( cadence flow breath control etc)
Originality ( nas discography is all original concepts and songs no body making shyt like rewind )


Kendrick no where near the level of Nas maybe you mean the current washed Nas ? Sure disrespectful to the goat

 

[BigMan]

Poor thing is a good song and shows that Cole could have written a decent diss tecord

Still can’t believe he released 7 million drill smfh

 

[Controversy]

39 Intro is so goated

It's the song I keep revisiting the most

That Memphis inspired sample...the flow, the bars, the multis, the punches...

Cole went crazy on that shyt