Jaguar Wright on IG goes off about The Roots and Malik B

[George's Dilemma]

Never followed The Roots like that, though I have loved some of their work over the years, one from 2010, I really liked, (I can't believe that was 10 years ago, this summer) and I mainly know Wright from her stuff with Jay on Unplugged, but the whole doing the Jimmy Fallon show always struck me, I understand to do a season to run some money up, but year after year?

Consistent income and high visibility. Probably better promotion than a label could give them.

 

[Lootha VanDraws]

Erykah is a piece of shyt, but I'm not even getting into that bag.

As far as Black Thought, I think shorty is taking something that's technically true and turning it into something much bigger. I'm sure it's true that Thought and Malik stayed sparring, freestyling, and recording random verses and here and there Thought might've liked the sound of a line Malik spit and incorporated it into his verse. But it's a stretch to believe Thought doesn't write his rhymes. Dice Raw probably helps with hooks and concepts here and there too. That's what happens in a collective. But cats penning full verses and albums? I took that with a gigantic grain of salt.

This is true. I remember during an interview for the Money Making Jam Boys (Thought, Dice, Greg Porn, Sugar Tongue Slim, Truck North) project years back, Thought pretty much said that Dice specifically wrote most of the hooks on that album, as it was an area which he was better than Thought.

 

[TEH]

I just listened you her music


Her voices is FLAMES what thee fukk

How did I miss this






btw

All this Neo Soul / Back Pack Hip Hop drama is going to make a great movie one day ...

 

[Asicz]

Off the Cuff Radio youtube shouts out thecoli.com

 

[newworldafro]

"the unlocking" by the roots hits a little different now

it starts with Common & Thought on the phone about running a train

This was Common on the other end of the line?

That Jazz Hip Hop was live though.

 

[get these nets]

This is true. I remember during an interview for the Money Making Jam Boys (Thought, Dice, Greg Porn, Sugar Tongue Slim, Truck North) project years back, Thought pretty much said that Dice specifically wrote most of the hooks on that album, as it was an area which he was better than Thought.

Dudes calling BS on Jag's claims about Dice Raw won't like this video.
@:44 mark

 

[nieman]

Dudes calling BS on Jag's claims about Dice Raw won't like this video.

They don't write for each other. They have jam sessions and freestyle sessions/competitions. Anyone that followed the Roots knows how they execute music. I've seen videos of the them literally taking the last 2-4 bars of the previous spitter, and starting using it to start off their next rhyme. They also do it with older classic bars. Dice did a lot of writing for hooks, especially on Undun. Of course, no writer of any genre writes 100% of everything. They take lines from any source, but to say Dice or Malik or Thought (adding Truck/PORN/Slim) ghostwrite for each other is farfetched.

 

[RichYung]

Dudes calling BS on Jag's claims about Dice Raw won't like this video.

 

[get these nets]

They don't write for each other. They have jam sessions and freestyle sessions/competitions. Anyone that followed the Roots knows how they execute music. I've seen videos of the them literally taking the last 2-4 bars of the previous spitter, and starting using it to start off their next rhyme. They also do it with older classic bars. Dice did a lot of writing for hooks, especially on Undun. Of course, no writer of any genre writes 100% of everything. They take lines from any source, but to say Dice or Malik or Thought (adding Truck/PORN/Slim) ghostwrite for each other is farfetched.

Black Thought "Dice Raw went from a guy that we featured on 1 or 2 songs, to becoming my all out WRITING PARTNER"


This board has a troubling amount of dudes who won't walk back comments or admit that they could be wrong even when presented with evidence to that effect.

It is what it is.

 

[nieman]

Black Thought "Dice Raw went from a guy that we featured on 1 or 2 songs, to becoming my all out WRITING PARTNER"


This board has a troubling amount of dudes who won't walk back comments or admit that they could be wrong even when presented with evidence to that effect.

It is what it is.

I get it, but if you've seen them craft songs...which they don't have captured on camera that much anymore, you would see how they do it. Most of their albums they'd just be in the studio on a jam session, playing instruments, freestyling, humming, filler bars, back n forth spitting...whoever comes through, comes through, then they'd go re-lay the vocals and redo beats when they got a song to where where they wanted. It's how they did everything up to Tipping Point.

Dice also replaced Malik B as the writing partner. It used to be Malik & Thought, with Dice chimming in. Then we got albums of 90% Thought, and over the past few albums Dice has been crafting the hooks, and perhaps some concepts. These dudes don't even rhyme the same. Bars get used between the camp, but they literally have off-the-top freestyle sessions on some songs. Writing partner means someone I write with..not necessarily someone who writes for me. And Dice specially said he don't write (with his camp). If he did, why wouldn't he say it?

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

A lot of what Jag was said resonated with me. I was on that scene for a minute (I ain't have the patience or disposition for it) and it was bozo central. Non-stop frontin, embarrassing materialism, performative blackness... nikkas were so worthless and dysfunctional. Some of y'all been sitting online for years deflecting and rationalizing for utter doofuses you aint never gonna meet, and who wouldn't pass you a sunflower seed and a cup of water if you were in their presence. These nikkas be lames by the most basic block standards, and ya'' stay putting them on pedestals. Meanwhile, they constantly let you know exactly who they are through their actions and yall cling to these total myths of these cats being provocative thinkers and standup humans.

My track record here speaks for itself - told yall about the hulk hogan n-word scandal almost a full day before the story came out, and the traffic damn near crippled the coli because so many people came to this board for the story; told yall drake had a team of ghostwriters and producers like a decade before it became common knowledge; told yall about kanye 5 years before it was undeniable and even connected him to donald trump way in advance; explained a major college football scandal a decade before the recent exposé popped in the mainstream news. I don't talk on shyt unless I know what I'm talking about.

Jag is spot on with how they played Malik. Tariq has a legit weed addiction and you could say he's an alcoholic too. Her point about them getting high and mighty about other rap nikkas on "What They Do" only to turn around and become glorified butlers for Jimmy Fallon is real deal too. Quest is an absolute fukkboy - he and Talib stood out on that scene as two of the lamest pseudo-intellectual blowhards I'd ever encountered. Some of the most militant and conscious rappers on that scene used to be begging cats who worked at spots like Marc Ecko for free outfits. I helped book mos and talib for a show and their rider was some shyt like 10 bottles of henny and condoms. They performed brown skin lady and dipped with a gaggle of 18-21 year old white women. The Roots stayed in their vans/buses post-show with bum ass white groupies. Everyone familiar with that scene knew they were exploiting and underpaying talent. Common was a doofus and a half. The scene is a mix of megalomaniacs, insecure bougie nikkas performing blackness for white people, and nikkas who talk the most militant and political bullshyt bu are desperately trying to get invites to hobnob with wealthy white socialites. Some of the most insufferable nikkas I've ever been around. And would sell you out for a few pennies at every turn.

I'm sure Jag been through a lot - from navigating the industry, being blackballed, her son being murdered and her close friends dying too young. I hope she finds some peace. Shorty really was a talent and a presence.

You ain't lying breh.

I've definitely been to Quest's crib. Dude is really weird and obsessed with whiteness.

 

[Walt]

You ain't lying breh.

I've definitely been to Quest's crib. Dude is really weird and obsessed with whiteness.

Dog he still outchea DJing Jewish weddings in Florida at palatial estates, not a single nikka within miles. He's a total sucker, a wannabe, and the most insufferable type of vapid nikka.

 

[wire28]

Wow she really aired out everyone

 

[DontEemTry]

Quest is the ultimate cornball.

I remember a thread on OKP where he was in some building (maybe where he lives, I don't remember) and he was about to get in the elevator and some white broad was there.

This nikka proceded to explain how he made himself seem as unthreatening and polite as he possible could, only for the white chick to still act scared of him.

nikka went on to rant about how upset he was about it.

He wanna be accepted by them folks so bad.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

I was fukking one of Jag's friends.

She said after he son died, she got weird and now she just loves her from a distance.