Jalen Rose- Harden is playing like Westbrook isn't there

[murksiderock]

Exactly. Those rocket competed with the KD warriors at a higher level than ANY team they ever faced. Couldve easily one if CP doesnt get hurt. Took them to 7, meanwhile them bron Cavs looked completely unmatched and made the finals unwatchable, yet people try to excuse those series.

Lmao nobody excuses those series for the Cavs, all we hear about when that is brought up is how "LeBron", not "the Cavs", kept losing to a more superior team--->without people actually referencing how much better the Warriors were...

 

[Killer Instinct]

I think it's highly debatable and a toss up, as to whether Harden or Wade were the better player at their peak)...

C'mon man.

 

[Rice N Beans]

The only reason he doesnt have a ring or two is because of Kevin Durant.

 

[killacal]

Coli nikkas don't understand basketball if they think james harden is better than the truth

Now you see why these new players are stat padding

Retard fans actually believe numbers over everything

Whole thread sounding like

Matt Stafford >>>>Dan Marino

B b but the numbers

 

[CHICAGO]

Harden is a perennial choker, but he's better than Pierce was...

Pierce was an All-Star level player for a long time, but what was he doing that Harden wasn't? We know his defense was was a little better but Pierce wasn't some elite defender at any point. He isn't as unique a scorer as Harden, though I'd say Pierce had the more pure shot...

And Pierce also wasn't winning shyt, the same way Harden hasn't won shyt...

Harden just finished Year 10. Pierce won his title in Year 10, the year he got blessed with KG and Ray and didn't have to be the #1 anymore...

Pierce was never a true #1 and always better suited to be the second option, but in the seven years he was Boston's #1 (2000-2007/Year 3 thru Year 9), he never led his team to a 50-win season, missed the playoffs three times, only made the playoffs four times, was eliminated in the First Round two of those four playoff appearances, and only got to the East Finals once...

Harden became a #1 in Year 4 when he went to Houston and has been one since. Comparatively, in seven years as a #1 (2012-present/Year 4 thru Year 10), he's led his team to four 50-win and one 60-win seasons; has never missed the playoffs in the same equivalent time as a #1 as Pierce, which is more impressive given Harden has never missed the playoffs in the tougher conference while Pierce missed the playoffs three times in the '00s Eastern Conference...

Three of those playoffs Harden got eliminated in Round 1, but he also got to the West Finals twice...

At the same point in their career Pierce was a 5x All-Star and 2x All-NBA 3rd Team. Harden is a 7x All-Star, 6x All-NBA (5x 1st Team), 2x scoring champ, assists leader, and MVP...

Comparatively, both in the middle of their primes, as #1's, here's Paul Pierce (2000-2007):

(Reg season)
38.4 minutes per game
24.8/6.7/4.1 on 18.3 shots per game
.439/.358/.793 (8.8 FTA per game)
22 PER/.558 TS%
30.3 USG/29.9 VORP
42.9 OWS/25.5 DWS/68.5 WS
.161 WS/48

(Playoffs)
42.1 mpg
24.5/8.5/4.7 on 18 shots per game
.409/.301/.820 (10.1 FTA per game)
21.8 PER/.548 TS%
29.7 USG/2.8 VORP
2.6 OWS/2.7 DWS/5.3 WS
.162 WS/48

James Harden (2012-2019)

(Reg Season)
37.1 mpg
29/6/7.7 on 19.3 shots per game
.443/.364/.861 (10.2 FTA per game)
26.5 PER/.610 TS%
33 USG/53 VORP
77.4 OWS/23.6 DWS/100.9 WS
.239 WS/48

(Playoffs)
38.2 mpg
28.2/5.7/7 on 20.7 shots per game
.412/.322/.876 (9.4 FTA per game)
23.5 PER/.569 TS%
33.3 USG/6.3 VORP
6.5 OWS/2.8 DWS/9.3 WS
.161 WS/48

SO WHO WAS PP'S D12 OR CP3
SINCE HE DOESNT GET CREDIT
FOR WINNING WITH KG & RAY?

HELL DID HE EVEN HAVE A TEAM MATE
AS GOOD AS A YOUNG PARSONS?
ERIC GORDON? LOU WILLIAMS?
CAPELA?



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[iamduval]

If he’s bringing the ball up, they’re already hustling backwards. Nobody respecting Russ off the ball without* a full head of steam

Russ can’t shoot either. They will win a lot of games because of how talented they are but they look like a first round exit team

 

[stepbackj34spud]

SO WHO WAS PP'S D12 OR CP3
SINCE HE DOESNT GET CREDIT
FOR WINNING WITH KG & RAY?

HELL DID HE EVEN HAVE A TEAM MATE
AS GOOD AS A YOUNG PARSONS?
ERIC GORDON? LOU WILLIAMS?
CAPELA?



​

I keep telling people, besides Antoine Walker, Pierce played with D leaguers. I hate when they say Pierce didn’t win shyt playing by himself, when he was literally playing by himself out there.

 

[GilSho]

These dudes have the time of their lives but y'all in here furious.

This thread is pure comedy.

Harden is way better than Pierce, Iverson, Wade, Kobe and most of the players y'all hating ass nikkas stan.

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't fakkits.

These lame ass fakkits are furious as shyt because Harden has his own unique playing style & iconic moves that half the League copies.

When he wins a ring without Superteam hopping & doing it entirely his own way it'll completely invalidate the complete trash y'all insecure motherfukkers posted in here.

 

[CHICAGO]

These dudes have the time of their lives but y'all in here furious.

This thread is pure comedy.

Harden is way better than Pierce, Iverson, Wade, Kobe and most of the players y'all hating ass nikkas stan.

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't fakkits.

These lame ass fakkits are furious as shyt because Harden has his own unique playing style & iconic moves that half the League copies.

When he wins a ring without Superteam hopping & doing it entirely his own way it'll completely invalidate the complete trash y'all insecure motherfukkers posted in here.

​

 

[jwinfield]

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't fakkits.

You want to talk numbers in a thread that's discussing Harden's playoff failures

 

[Mʀ2ᴋDᴇᴇᴢ]

Harden is way better than Pierce, Iverson, Wade, Kobe and most of the players y'all hating ass nikkas stan.

 

[010101]

why cats never got criticism for all the nikkas not making the playoffs & going home before harden¿

ha

*

 

[Columbo]

He wins games at the end of the day and produces while doing so. The only reason he doesnt have a ring or two is because of Kevin Durant. But I knew you were just biased when you tried to make the argument that pierce was better. Much better than pierce.

I think he would have had a chance to get one at the most. The 2018 Rockets were better then the 2019 Rockets. That would have been there best chance if it wasnt for the snake

I wouldnt even bother with that Pierce stan. Breh probably faps to Pierce highlights and uses jerseys of players we say are better to wipe it up with

He probably has his Harden and Melo jerseys right next to his fap headquarters as we speak

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You can't have it both ways here. The Warriors couldn't have been an unstoppable, unfair, super team, and then you shyt on Harden and the Rockets for being unable to beat them.

Yall do the same thing with Jordan. He can't be the best player off all time with that Bulls team being the best ever if all you do is talk about how bad all the teams were in that Era.

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You want to talk numbers in a thread that's discussing Harden's playoff failures

He has to be trolling.

why cats never got criticism for all the nikkas not making the playoffs & going home before harden¿

ha

*

Name one player with as many accolades as Harden who has failed as badly in the playoffs as him.

 

[cartierhoe]

These dudes have the time of their lives but y'all in here furious.

This thread is pure comedy.

Harden is way better than Pierce, Iverson, Wade, Kobe and most of the players y'all hating ass nikkas stan.

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't fakkits.

These lame ass fakkits are furious as shyt because Harden has his own unique playing style & iconic moves that half the League copies.

When he wins a ring without Superteam hopping & doing it entirely his own way it'll completely invalidate the complete trash y'all insecure motherfukkers posted in here.

All them numbers, but no rings to show for it


Yet he better than those names listed