James Harden First Recorded 30/15/14 Triple Double with Zero Turnovers in NBA History

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JACK! said:
Except that's not the case at all. KD's only elite skill is scoring. That's the most important skill to have but he's a mediocre playmaker and his defense is only slightly above average at best. Put him on a team that doesn't have an elite guard to handle creation duties and you see his weaknesses pretty clearly. On every team KD has been on his only job has been to score because he doesn't have the ability to anchor an elite defense, be a lead playmaker, etc.

It's funny you say that cause KD has never done anything better than Lebron besides shooting. Lebron has led better playoff offenses than KD, has scored more efficiently on a higher volume than KD in the playoffs, and is demonstrably better in every other facet of basketball. But KD has a prettier game so dudes love to overrate his impact.
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My guy, LeBron being lodged down ya'll throat does not phase me. At all. Ya'll downplaying KD's greatness is routine and whatever at this point. I do not care.

I asked you a question, So I REPEAT...

"Real question you should be asking is how is LeBron better than Harden...or have ya'll already accepted it ain't 2015 anymore?"

I'm listening.
 
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ain't realize it was the first in history with 0 tos...shyt kinda gaudy too.. with 15 ast .
 
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Buckeye Fever said:
Bron probably like "I'm glad this dude wasn't in his prime in 2012":whew:
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JACK! said:
Except that's not the case at all. KD's only elite skill is scoring. That's the most important skill to have but he's a mediocre playmaker and his defense is only slightly above average at best. Put him on a team that doesn't have an elite guard to handle creation duties and you see his weaknesses pretty clearly. On every team KD has been on his only job has been to score because he doesn't have the ability to anchor an elite defense, be a lead playmaker, etc.

It's funny you say that cause KD has never done anything better than Lebron besides shooting. Lebron has led better playoff offenses than KD, has scored more efficiently on a higher volume than KD in the playoffs, and is demonstrably better in every other facet of basketball. But KD has a prettier game so dudes love to overrate his impact.


How? His efficiency routinely decreased from regular season to postseason until he signed with the Warriors and got to enjoy the fruits of their labor. Defenses honed in on Steph and let KD iso 1-on-1, he didn't face the defensive attention that Harden had to face as a Rocket. Harden this season is in a similar position as KD was and you'll see just great of a postseason player he can be when he isn't facing double teams consistently.
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I've been saying since forever that Harden is better than KD and it shows when you go in-depth with the numbers and put their career trajectories in context. Harden in Houston was better than KD in OKC.

Only three illogical reasons folks put KD over Harden:
- the rings he won by adding himself to 73-9 Warriors
- KD came up during Bron's prime and their legacies and status became linked in a narrative of comparing them
- KD is 7 feet and can shoot over people whenever whereas other star players have to drive the ball or use skills to get a shot off

KD in his heart of hearts knows Harden and Bron might be the only 2 players who can be more dominant than he is. That's why he was happy as a kid to have him join the Nets. He knew it is his one shot to outdo LeBron, Steph and Kawhi in the ring count and emerge as the most winning player of his generation.
 
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I hate the “there’s only one ball” narrative yet there’s an all-star game ppl watch every year...this a damn all-star team
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Anyone who uses this corny narrative has clearly never been to or watched an AAU game at the elite levels. I’ve learned to ignore the basketball purists and enjoy the meal that is set in front of me. The fact that he put up these numbers against arguable the greatest basketball coach of all time tells a little bit more of a story on how special this and JH is as a player.
 
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JACK! said:
Except that's not the case at all. KD's only elite skill is scoring. That's the most important skill to have but he's a mediocre playmaker and his defense is only slightly above average at best. Put him on a team that doesn't have an elite guard to handle creation duties and you see his weaknesses pretty clearly. On every team KD has been on his only job has been to score because he doesn't have the ability to anchor an elite defense, be a lead playmaker, etc.

It's funny you say that cause KD has never done anything better than Lebron besides shooting. Lebron has led better playoff offenses than KD, has scored more efficiently on a higher volume than KD in the playoffs, and is demonstrably better in every other facet of basketball. But KD has a prettier game so dudes love to overrate his impact.


How? His efficiency routinely decreased from regular season to postseason until he signed with the Warriors and got to enjoy the fruits of their labor. Defenses honed in on Steph and let KD iso 1-on-1, he didn't face the defensive attention that Harden had to face as a Rocket. Harden this season is in a similar position as KD was and you'll see just great of a postseason player he can be when he isn't facing double teams consistently.
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We all saw KD bust bron ass in back-to-back years, and he looked like the best player on the court
 
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As a long time NJ Nets fan this makes me so jealous :mjcry:


It's like your girlfriend leaving you for another dude and doing better while you're living in the gutter addicted to crack.
 
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inndaskKy said:
I've been saying since forever that Harden is better than KD and it shows when you go in-depth with the numbers and put their career trajectories in context. Harden in Houston was better than KD in OKC.

Only three illogical reasons folks put KD over Harden:
- the rings he won by adding himself to 73-9 Warriors
- KD came up during Bron's prime and their legacies and status became linked in a narrative of comparing them
- KD is 7 feet and can shoot over people whenever whereas other star players have to drive the ball or use skills to get a shot off

KD in his heart of hearts knows Harden and Bron might be the only 2 players who can be more dominant than he is. That's why he was happy as a kid to have him join the Nets. He knew it is his one shot to outdo LeBron, Steph and Kawhi in the ring count and emerge as the most winning player of his generation.
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OKAY coli psychologist, but if your life was on the line and you needed a big game, you not taking Harden over KD unless you wanna die, so all that other shyt is Juelzin'.
 
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