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James Harden Sets NBA Season Record For Most Points Created By 1 Player
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polokuo
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at the mental gymnastics required to cape for Russ' stat-padded uncontested rebounds yet find a reason to hate on Harden's accomplishments. People so willing to buy into media hype these days.
DIMES
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Didn't he do this last year and the year before
G.W.
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Most points ever CREATED?? Man what the fukk is this new shyt?
CREATED the most points in NBA history.. I bet not never hear you geeks talk about the NBA pre 2014.. fukk stat nerds
Lmao it's a simple ass stat. All it is, is most points and assists ever in a season. It's combining 2 primary stats. That's it. Because it's "new" and not one of the box score big 8 (9 with turnovers), we're stat nerds for appreciating it?
If it was just points or just assists you'd be impressed....
Taadow
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I'm saying this as a black man, I'm sorry but this is blatant ignorance. Wilbon made a similar argument and it was just as asinine and absurd. Really what it comes down to is evolution. Through time humans have found ways to improve everything so why shouldn't we find better ways to analyze the game of basketball? Why do people read box scores, the answer is simple.......to find out what happened in a particular game. Most people have figured out that the traditional box score doesn't tell the whole story and now we have more metrics to tell us what's going on. None of it is perfect but one's True Shooting percentage (which incorporates 3's and foul shots taken) tells me a lot more than one's Field Goal Percentage. One's contested shots through NBA player tracking tells me a lot more about someone's defense than I would have known 5, 10 or 20 years ago. We're also able to develop the most optimal strategies for being able to play the game. I know for me personally I got into analytics to help me bet NBA & NFL because I knew I'd be unsuccessful without it.
No one who is into analytics suggest that we need to take analytics above all. It's a tool and should be weighted accordingly.
This Harden stat for most produced points is just an example of the evolution of how we measure impact. At one point assists weren't recorded and now we record them. Just like assists there were things that maybe we didn't know were impactful 10-20 years before that we know now. Look at the amount of hockey assists that Curry generates, that means something.
KillerB88
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Don't know why you wrote out this diatribe. I was clear that my beef wasn't with the OP's topic, it was with ACTUAL advanced stats.
Stelio Kontos
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If they included points the other team scored off his turnovers too  
shyt would be untouchable
shyt would be untouchable
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Goatpoacher
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If you count offense and defense, then he probably broke the record years ago.
Analyitics help in that regard?
Can u school me on it then breh? R there vids i can learn from yt?
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Analytics are very helpful. Even without getting too advanced just things like offensive and defensive efficiency, ORR%, TRR% in basketball or just metrics like yards per play and yards per point in football and implementing them into a number for what a team might score in a given game is helpful even before getting into the really advanced data they have these days with player tracking.
Best thing you can do is to take a statistics course. There's numerous statistics courses you can take online. Building a regression model (statistical process for estimating the relationships among variables) is great for starting out. More often than not just from the model I created, my numbers are on board with the Vegas numbers so I'm rarely surprised by a number that's thrown out there. My modeling skills still need some work tho.
There are even more advanced modeling techniques.
Haralabob Voulgaris who is basically the best NBA bettor ever basically has a Markov Chain model (and he had this before NBA.com player tracking) where he'd model every single state in a possible NBA possession and every possession and have it spit out a number for the game. So basically his model would parse all the play by play data & in his model if the Rockets were to play OKC for example, it would track who is most likely to guard James Harden on one person and how that particular possession would turn out & so on and so on for every possession in a game. You'd pretty much need to hire someone with a PHD in Math and Statistics to do something like this.......
Here's something I found online with someone who's done something similar.
There really isn't a lot of books on the sports gambling and developing models pertaining to sports so you're really going to have to go through statistics and math stuff and try to find ways to apply that sports but this book was helpful, although somewhat outdated.
Mathletics: How Gamblers, Managers, and Sports Enthusiasts Use Mathematics in Baseball, Basketball, and Football
Absolut
Legal Bookie
another good book for the basics in sports betting is weighing the odds by king yao. while also outdated, it gives you a good base to start from. anything thats truly successful now is worth its weight in gold and only an idiot would divulge their methods to the masses, but those 2 books are good recommendations to getting your feet wet in more advanced styles of analyzing data for betting purposes. conquering risk by elihu feustel also is solid. anything to help you get on the road to deriving your own numbers. you have no chance at beating the juice if you cant accurately price a game on your own
There really isn't a lot of books on the sports gambling and developing models pertaining to sports so you're really going to have to go through statistics and math stuff and try to find ways to apply that sports but this book was helpful, although somewhat outdated.
Mathletics: How Gamblers, Managers, and Sports Enthusiasts Use Mathematics in Baseball, Basketball, and Football
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